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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:16 AM
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Democrats retract accusations of tampering by Waukesha County Clerk Nickolaus
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/127444493.html

BROWN DEER - The Wisconsin Democratic Party has retracted a public accusation by Democratic Party officials Tuesday night claiming fraud during the recall elections.

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The Democrats later retracted that statement saying the party will not pursue questions of irregularities.

"Though we believe that Sandy Pasch was able to battle Alberta Darling to a virtual tie, on her turf, we will not pursue questions of irregularities. Those heat-of-the-moment statements came in light of the uncertainties that arose from a recent election, known too well," said state party chairman Mike Tate.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:20 AM
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1. I wonder where the missing ballot bags are THIS time? nt
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:21 AM
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2. There weren't any. We had people at every poll watching every move.
This is why DPW retracted. They compared released #'s to tallies at precincts by observers.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:13 AM
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19. Were there exit polls to compare against any proprietary electronic counts? nt
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:22 AM
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3. And as "known too well" should be investigated to the extent of the law and exposed
to daylight, regardless of outcome.

Just in case she is allowed to oversee another election, given that uncertainties are so 'known too well'.

Regardless, congrats on the 2 seats Nikki. Well done WI!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:23 AM
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4. It surprises me that they have not removed Kathy Nickolaus
from the process by now, just because of the things that happened in the past.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:25 AM
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5. She's up for reelection in 2012. I suspect she will not run and we're working hard to find a good
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 07:27 AM by PeaceNikki
challenger.

Meanwhile, we had dedicated and well-trained people at every polling place watching her every move. If DPW had evidence of fraud, they'dbe all over it.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:09 AM
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28. I believe it.
I worked on Kennedy v. Sensenbrenner in 2006 and I know how painfully red it is out there.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:12 AM
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33. We're doing the best we can.
Despite our reputation, it's important to remember that Waukesha County has the third most Democrats of all 72 counties in Wisconsin - right behind Dane and Milwaukee. That's raw #'s, clearly not percentage but it's important to understand that there ARE a lot of good Dems here. Fighting and working together.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:28 AM
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6. Dems once again fail to capitalize on negative Republican actions.

Miss the good headline "Did Republicans tamper with votes?"

The repugs would hammer this day and night across the nation.

Dems fold.

This is why we lose, we don't have enough hate.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:28 AM
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7. Nobody folded.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:31 AM
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10. Thank you for this. Please keep telling people...
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 07:31 AM by terip64
We need to focus our energy and not get sidetracked.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:53 AM
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16. Wisconsin Democrats will and do not fold.
And the implication/accusation is frankly bullshit.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:42 AM
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31. You have eased my mind. Thank you for speaking out here on DU and for all you do!!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:12 AM
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32. It's important to stick to the facts. Emotional knee-jerks are not wise.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:36 AM
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14. Were you there?
Do you have any inside information? If so, please share. If not, stop throwing accusations into the wind.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:59 AM
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18. You should be as active in AZ as PeaceNikki and others are in WI
We should ALL be as active.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:26 AM
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20. So we should waste money on something we have no evidence for?
That will win elections.....not.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:29 AM
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8. Dems apologize for being angry. Allow repukes to laugh at them.
that is how the headline should read.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:29 AM
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9. Look again. Nobody apologized.
Retracting is not apologizing.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:31 AM
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11. So you feel confident there was no foul play, PeaceNikki?
If so, that's good enough for me.

:yourock:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:32 AM
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12. Yes. We had a LOT of people watching VERY closely.
DPW had all precinct numbers as they were counted and before they even went to the county.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:45 AM
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22. I'm actually glad to hear that.
The idea that Rethugs cheat and consistently get away with it boils my blood. Losing fair and square is another thing. I don't like it, but at least it means we have a fair shot. Hopefully WI will get rid of the rest of the creeps in 2012.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:47 AM
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23. We are busting our asses to do it. I have faith in the integrity of our elections in WI.
But to KEEP that faith, we're watching every move very closely.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:52 AM
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24. Yes, you can't take your eyes off them. Sticky ballot fingers is an understatement.
Thanks so much for all the information and insights you've provided us Nikki! :)
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:06 AM
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27. We're on it,
:)
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:36 AM
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13. Thank you. They were heat of moment accusations.
That sounded pathetic - how could you accuse vote counting cheating when no evidence was in - counting was still going on when he said this!
Go out today, and gather witnesses and evidence.
THEN say they cheated.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:37 AM
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15. They never said cheating or fraud last night.
I noticed Mike and Graeme were careful to not say fraud, they said "tampering with".
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:57 AM
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17. Thanks for a fact-based report from someone with first-hand knowledge
:pals: :applause: :loveya: :hi:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:44 AM
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21. Thanks, Richardo.
Sometimes we lose elections that were stacked against us. It sucks, but it happens. Assholes can vote, too... and they do.

:hug: :loveya: :hi:
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:52 AM
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25. GOP will have to work hard to rid the party of the stigma
that it's members rig elections.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:53 AM
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26. Exactly. Which is, I believe WHY the made the heat-of-the-moment statements.
It put it out there...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:14 AM
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29. They don't CARE if people think they rig elections. They proclaim "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!" and
just keep on rigging elections. They've perfected computer hacking.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:32 AM
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30. nope.
We watched their every move.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:16 AM
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34. I had to laugh after they plastered her mug on MSNBC...
...that they would have 9 of the 10 precincts posted in 5 minutes rather then the "over an hour wait" as they were reporting... she was sitting on the numbers and they called her on it.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:18 AM
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35. She's a HUGE drama queen and wanted to get more attention.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:05 PM
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36. Kick. n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:17 PM
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37. lol, thanks
Everyone is reading the statement and not the retraction.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:23 PM
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38. Yep, I bet that will get 200 recs before people get a clue.
:hi:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:24 PM
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39. And this one had 5 for a second but keeps getting smacked down.
lol, hilarious.

:hi:
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:31 PM
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40. People must think it they unrec this, it won't be true! n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 01:31 PM
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41. Yup.
Imma kick it to keep it near the other one... for a second anyway.

:)
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 05:43 PM
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42. kick
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