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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:44 PM
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England riots: pressure to scrap police cuts as Birmingham mourns its dead
David Cameron is facing growing cabinet pressure to rethink the coalition's policing cuts in the wake of the deaths of three young Birmingham men, who were hit by a car during violent disturbances in the city.

As the Police Federation warned of a "catastrophe" if similar riots erupted after the cuts were introduced, a senior government source said the Home Office would be advised to take a fresh look at its plans to cut £2bn from police funding over the next few years. "The optics have changed," the source told the Guardian.

Cameron said the cuts would not lead to a "reduction in visible policing". He is expected to announce some emergency funding when he addresses the Commons on Thursday, to cover the extra costs of policing this week's riots, as well as the possibility of insurance claims against police on the grounds they provided no protection to businesses in a riot.

But there are fears in Whitehall that the Home Office plan to make savings in the police service could leave an "exposed flank" in any future riots. London's mayor Boris Johnson warned the government against cutting numbers. "The case was always pretty frail and it's been substantially weakened. This is not the time to think about making substantial cuts in police numbers," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/england-riots-police-birmingham-dead

This is almost predictable... this is the law and order that inevitably comes out. But it is also the first chink in austerity armor.

Oh and disclaimer, getting it does not mean one condones them.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:46 PM
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1. Cameron - Murdoch's puppet needs a No Confidence Vote..
He needs to go..

He has blood on his hands...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:51 PM
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2. Yup... problem is will the crisis be deep enough to lead to that?
It should, but stranger things have happened.
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Denzil_DC Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:55 PM
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3. "But it is also the first chink in austerity armor."
I'm afraid that's overly optimistic.

During the Thatcher years, when civil unrest wasn't uncommon, to say the least (never mind riots, we had the miners' strike and widespread civil disobedience among the peace movement), policing was certainly not one of the sectors subject to austerity!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:05 AM
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4. But it is in Cameron's plan a 15% cut all across the board
why it is a chink.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:19 AM
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5. Austerity is at root of the Rioters grievances and Austerity
cut Police Jobs. Poor means of defense in crisis.

France was having economic problems enough to make our
Stock Mkt drop 500.

Austerity is working out real well over there, so our
Leaders have prescribed the the same thing for us.
My Jesus mercy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:21 AM
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6. It reminds me of a decade
the 1930s... to be exact... We didn't make that mistake then... well 'xept 1937.
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