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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:08 AM
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Brit youths demonstrate their "disenfranchisement" --by mugging an injured schoolboy:
Footage has emerged of a group of youths helping an injured boy to his feet and then appearing to steal the contents of his bag during disturbances in London on Monday.

The boy, who was bleeding heavily, was left standing on the street, with an empty backpack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456065
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:10 AM
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1. Follow-up story - Victim is a Maylasian student. He's recovering in a hospital.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:15 AM
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2. Yes, that meme has been repeated here 25 times. No rebellion, no political content. Just bad guys
and "yobs". Anything can be turned into the "truth" if repeated often enough.

We're still not buying the Kool-aid.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:31 AM
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5. -this incident isn't a "meme"..it actually happened; one incident caught on tape
out of possibly hundreds of equally reprehensible actions = "yobs" and thugs. The larger message of disenfranchisement was lost in all this senseless mayhem.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:39 AM
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7. Why would you describe a 20yr old as a 'schoolboy'?
That's the meme..repeat..repeat..repeat
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:53 AM
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9. He was a student, first month in the UK
They broke his jaw. That kid is not a meme, he is a human being. One can not claim to be embracing the truth of a large event if one is refusing to deal with the facts. The larger impetus does not mitigate the fact that within mayhem of any kind, predators will abuse the weak, and racists will attack the minorities they despise.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:09 AM
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12. Vast difference between a 'schoolboy' and student..meme..tweak the public thinking
repeat

it works..
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:12 AM
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13. Right. Because breaking the jaw of a 20-year old student is a legitimate fightback
against the Man.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:14 AM
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15. Not exactly news...
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 11:15 AM by HipChick
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:18 AM
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16. The real thugs are Conservative Govt..and the bribed Met Police

If they don't understand the causes, there is nothing to stop it re-occuring..
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:27 AM
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17. Yes. When you are living under a Conservative Govt., breaking the jaw of a 20-year old student
is entirely understandable.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:48 PM
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18. It's wonderful he's only been there for a few weeks and was able to get free NHS healthcare
without being forced to pay into the system first..
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:54 PM
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19. How do you know how the operation to fix his broken jaw was paid?
And what's that got to do with anything, anyway?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:03 PM
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25. Because he's in a NHS center hospital..
He'll never have a bill..
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:57 PM
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30. Link to where you found out that information, please. Anyway, all that does is say how...
...much better people are taken care in the UK than most other places in the world.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:57 PM
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21. Your blowing off what happened to this
young man because it does't fit your narrative is pretty fucking disgusting.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:58 PM
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22. And taking it out on an innocent victim is okay?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:04 PM
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26. it is cool. he doesnt have to pay for it. nor do those that loot even though they loot cause noone
gives them anything, or gives them a break.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:17 PM
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27. Prison is a cakewalk in the UK, so its not a deterrant

Cuts being made in the Prison system will mean offenders get shorter sentences, be released earlier..so unless the underlying causes are resolved, it will be a revolving door of repeat occurance..no-one is addressing the underlying issue..
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:33 PM
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28. i guess where you and i see the issue is two different perspectives. you dismiss the injuried
and i

do not.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:12 AM
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14. see. i feel so much better about physical violence against this person cause he is 20
and not a kid.

makes everything, the violence and threat perfectly legit.

got it.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:21 AM
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3. That's right show the one vid over and over again.
Just like the one misinterpreted vid about looters during Katrina. We saw that vid over and over again. Pick a vid that shows the worse possible side and keep repeating it because the corporate media doesn't want you to know all the truth.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:36 AM
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6. this is like rumsfeld saying they show the same person stealing the same vase over and over.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 09:42 AM by dionysus
thanks for trvializing the shit those scumbags pulled.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:22 AM
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4. an injured schoolboy? He's 20...Media manipulation at its best..
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 09:23 AM by HipChick
I'd be offended if someone called me that at that age..
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:02 PM
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24. No kidding!
I would be soooooo much more offended by the media calling me a schoolboy than having some assholes break my jaw!! And, I wouldn't be offended at all if I read the comments here saying that I was a "meme"!!! It's all about the SCHOOLBOY!!!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:55 PM
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29. Yet you're not offended that he was an innocent victim.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:49 AM
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8. Hey, that's how you fight back against the aristocracy!
(according to several DUers).

Way to go sending a message to the banksters!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:07 AM
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10. Rioters mugging is simply one description of what is going on, not an explanation.
Obviously mugging anyone, especially someone who is injured, is wrong. This doesn't explain the overall motivation for the riots though.
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:29 AM
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11. Wow, the same deluded reply crowd
Welcome to my Schadenfreude-list; I hope you live above a store.
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:55 PM
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20. So the subtext here is that no disenfranchisement has occurred
Interesting bit of denial.

Obviously, injuring people is wrong, but it's beside the point when looking for the causes and circumstances of civil unrest.

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:01 PM
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23. The fact that it has been happening increasingly everday for a decade
on a much more serious scale


is totally being ignored...along with the reasons behind it are also being ignored
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:24 AM
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31. But this may have happened even without rioting. Just sayin. n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:50 AM
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32. "A 20yo isn't a "schoolboy".
You are making it sound like they were harassing a little kid. Not that it an excuse for that crap, but such manipulative language is sickening.
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