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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:26 PM
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Bringing down the Postal Service and the Union. The Prefunding Mandate.
On November 12, the U.S. Postal Service released a report that stated it had lost a staggering $8.5 billion in Fiscal Year 2010, which ended September 30.

Media coverage of the report predictably focused on its negatives—the historically high figure is undeniably a headline-grabber—and news stories, shying away from the somewhat harder analysis the report demanded, laid the blame for the losses on the ever-rising use of e-mail, text messaging and paying bills online as a substitute for communicating via postal mail.

But take away two key complications that are completely beyond the Service’s control, and you’re left with the real story: that postal losses instead amounted to about $500 million—still a lot of money, but considerably lower than $8.5 billion, and down by more than 50 percent from last year’s $1.1 billion loss.

The first complication is one that should sound familiar to all letter carriers by now. A 2006 congressional mandate legally bound the USPS on September 30 to once again make a $5.5 billion payment toward pre-funding its Postal Service Retiree Health Benefit Fund. This 10-year mandate to front-load the PSRHBF is both highly unusual (no other corporation or agency is required to pre-fund benefits at such an onerous level) and unnecessary (before September 30, the fund was already contained enough cash to cover current and future retiree health benefits for decades to come).


http://www.postalreporternews.net/2010/11/18/nalc-the-real-story-is-usps-losses-amounted-to-500-million/
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:29 PM
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1. Why wasn't this one of the FIRST things we "undid"
when we took over in 2008??

We could have certainly racked up enough votes to do it.:(
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:31 PM
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3. I guess nobody was thinking about it.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:30 PM
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2. Is Mr. Obama or any other D looking to change the policy to save
the Postal service?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:33 PM
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4. Save it for the rich to "rent" to us, you mean?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:36 PM
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5. Here:
Last year, a postal-friendly Congress voted to help the USPS out and allowed a one-time, significant reduction in its 2009 payment requirement. In September, that same Congress, this time around perhaps preoccupied with election-year politicking, rejected a similar measure. (Though, to be fair, the Postal Service shares some of the blame here for its time-wasting campaign to cut out Saturday mail delivery, waiting until almost the last minute to press for this much-needed relief.) And so, a Postal Service already short on cash was forced to make the full $5.5 billion payment.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:40 PM
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6. I love the postal service commercial that runs on MSNBC
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 05:41 PM by senseandsensibility
Makes it clear that taxpayers do not pay, but that all costs are covered by postal rates. I never hear this mentioned elsewhere. I support the workers, and I have had a great experience over the years with the US Postal Service. I think its service is superb.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:50 PM
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7. This is all about breaking unions, in case you are wondering. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:52 PM
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8. Yes. And privatizing where possible.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:56 PM
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9. k*r It's always something! ROTTEN Great post
From the link: "Our union’s focus continues to be on getting Congress to authorize the transfer of the Postal Service’s money—estimated to be anywhere from $50 billion to $75 billion overpaid into the Civil Service Retirement System since 1971—into the PSRHBF."

Help me here. That seems reasonable. DO that and the jobs are saved in a time of "recession." So who benefits from stopping it and where is the president on this?

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:04 PM
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10. This is only a guess,
but if you tracked down who was placing holds on bringing this or that USPS-related vote to the floor, and took a look at who they receive campaign money from, I bet you'd find a relationship between those members of Congress, UPS, and FedEx.

Failing that, I'd look for statements made or projects endorsed by politicians related to how "wasteful" the USPS is (we're NOT, we're actually very efficient, but that doesn't fit their narrative about us). Anyone who has ever made a positive statement about a potentially privatized USPS is suspect.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:07 PM
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11. Thanks. Very interesting;)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:46 PM
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12. Yes, they are in the black on other accounts.
It is reasonable.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:27 AM
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13. This b.s. is just relentless
In addition to the moral and civil objections, this is pure intellectual dishonesty. If there is money available to balance out this current imbalance, it should be applied. Just sick to death of these criminals making up rules as they go along. The super congress is perfect example, the mother of all perfect examples. What a joke that is. It violates the House and Senate rules, to start with.

I'm starting to think that this was a documentary (pre-cognitive, of course).
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:24 AM
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14. The Bushies set a pension funding time bomb for USPS...
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 01:35 AM by sfpcjock
back in 2006 that was set to go off this year. Kaboom" says Rep. (and car thief) Darryl Issa.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44115351">
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44115351">Rights of U.S. Postal Workers Under Attack



The U.S. Postal Service is is facing financial problems that were largely created by Congress. Now Congress wants to strip postal workers of their union rights.

>>> How much do you know about the united states postal service? You hear a lot of negative comments about their finances, don't you? well, earlier today, I spoke to the postal workers in Orlando, Florida. These are men and women in the same boat as republican employees in states like wisconsin and verizon workers across the country on strike right now. they're fighting for their jobs, their rights and their futures. the united states postal service, announcing today that it wants to reduce its work forest by 20%. but layoffs of that nature are prohibited by union contracts. that's where the republicans step right on in. gop congressman daryl isa has introduced a bill that would slash postal worker wages, slash benefits and end protections against layoffs. but the financial problems facing the postal service, and i want you to hear this, were created largely, not by you and me but by the congress. in 2006, a law passed was forcing the postal service to provide 75 years worth of pension funding within a 10-year window. who the hell else has to do that? independent firms estimate that the united states postal service already overpaid the fund by $50 billion to $80 billion. so, even though the post office made $226 million in the first quarter profits for this year, 2011, all of that money went to the congressional mandate fund. you know what they're trying to do, folks? they are trying to shut down the united states postal service. they want to privatize this, as well. and i want to make it very clear tonight that not one tax dollar goes to running the united states postal service. it is all operated and funded through the stamps that you and i purchase. joining me tonight is cliff duffy, he is the president of the american postal workers union. mr. duffy, great to have you with us tonight.

>> Good to be with you, Ed.

>> Did what i say wrong? or is that accurate? can you add to it?

>> That's very accurate, ed. the postal service has overpaid into their retirement monday, billions of dollars. that's money that's withheld from the workers and was matched by postage revenue that we, through our productivity, have earned for the postal service. and that was given to congress to prepay our retirement funds. well, the actuaries, the independent actuaries said there is at least $50 billion overpaid in this one fund. and $75 billion paid into it by the other actuary. this is done by the office of the inspector general and the regulatory commission.

>> What can congress do to reverse this? to balance your books a lot better because you are a profitable organization. what happened?

>> Even with that money drained off in our retirement system, the postal service was required to prefund our health insurance into retirement by $5 billion for the last five or six years. without the $20 billion or $30 billion going into that fund, the post office would be profitable. congress wants us to continue to put money into these retirement funds and to keep prefending. but if they would credit the postal service with that money, that's actually the workers' money.

>> Sure. the postal service would pay off its debt, pay off the debts necessary and have cash to get through this trying time.

>> So, your mandate --

>> The concession that's been created by the congress to blame the workers. they're blaming the workers for the problems of the country, which is there's not enough commerce in this country because they allow the system to set up to send all of the work overseas.

>> Why is the congress coming forward and saying they want to -- the postal service wants to cut the workforce 20% and talking about five-day delivery service. why do they want to do that?

>> It has gone to the congress and asked the congress to release these funds. they say, we can't release these funds. if they release the funds back to the postal service, it would show how much underfunded the rest of the government is. and would show how badly and poorly the rest of the government is run. they put tax dollars into it. postage dollars have come in and it's run properly. they want to take my retirement funds that i put in and the postal service put in, to pay the retirements for the other federal agencies they haven't funded.

>> Wow.

>> That's totally improper.

>> It is improper. you don't use tax dollars. it's all from stamps and services that you sell, correct?

>> That's correct. they're taking our money and using it for other things in the federal government.

>> Do you think they want to privatize? do you think there's some that want to get rid of the postal service and go privatization?

>> There's some people. the postal service still makes $70 billion a year. $70 billion worth of business comes into the postal service. and it supports the trillion-dollar industry out there, paper manufacturing, envelopes, cards, companies that the postal service supports.

>> And reducing it to a five-day delivery service would hurt our economy. there's a lot of studies out there that show that.

>> We would find a way to get the medicines to the individuals. but we want to serve the american people. the postal service is respected by 80% of the public. congress, 20%. i'll be -- i hope the public stays on our side in this to know that we want to provide a service. and we want to be there to help the public.

>> I'll do more on this. i use your service every day. cliff guffey, thank you very much.

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