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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:23 PM
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You know, even though Bush was a putz and an awful president...
He still was the president and so he was to be afforded the respect that comes with the office...

That's what the way I felt...

Not to say I didn't criticize him at every chance, or didn't support most of his policies, at the end of the day he was still my president because I am a citizen of the United States and he was the president.

And yes, after this complete denigration of our, as in the American, not democrat, American, president, I will still afford respect for any republican ever elected for the rest of my life.

This idea that YOUR president, YOUR guy is just too much.

Too continue to say he is not my president is borderline treasonous.

He is the President of the United States of America, deal with it.

I respect the office but can still loath the person occupying the Oval Office...

The same goes for president Obama. I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary but still supported my candidate, the democrat, Barack Obama.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:27 PM
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1. I never wished for failure
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 07:28 PM by Mz Pip
because failure hurts everyone. Bush was a failure but it wasn't as though I was cheering that on.

THese idiots who work to make sure Obama fails just to score some political points don't care about the country.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:30 PM
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2. I respected the office while detesting the man...
and I mourned for our country every day he was in office.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:11 PM
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14. I mourn for our country now. nt
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:30 PM
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3. Totally agreed! I got mad when that guy threw the shoe at Bush
despite the fact I couldn't stand the guy personally or politically. But he was the president. So too is Obama. And I still have hope that he can turn it around.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:30 PM
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4. Even though I am a us citizen, shrub was never my president and did not deserve
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 07:32 PM by uppityperson
any respect that comes with the office.

NO president deserves respect unless he has earned it and simply getting elected in no way makes him deserving of respect.

If you think I am treasonous, I very much disagree. "He is the president of the usa, deal with it", true. But this in no way means he is deserving of respect. Respect the office, but not the person, perhaps.

Wishing for failure to score political points? Shame on whomever does that.

Not having respect="treason"? Shame on you.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:35 PM
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7. +1
:thumbsup:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:39 PM
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9. Yes, EXACTLY. nt
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:34 PM
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5. If it wasn't for his disasterous reign of terror, it was sheer entertainment!
:rofl:
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florida_lurker Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:34 PM
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6. Google Results
Bush not my president site:www.democraticunderground.com -- About 55,300 results

"fuck bush" site:www.democraticunderground.com -- About 20,900 results
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:37 PM
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8. well he was NEVER my president, I NEVER thought of him that way
and I NEVER will. I had NO respect for him whatsoever, I couldn't respect the office that he had stolen. :shrug:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:47 PM
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10. Bush convinced me that the national government is thoroughly corrupt.
I mean, I always knew it was corrupt, but I used to think it could still function in a coherent way, now I know better,
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War Horse Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:57 PM
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11. One thing:
He kept a lid on the worst of the worst Islamophobia. Probably b/c there was a white guy and an R in the White House, but still.

I mean, he actually visited a Mosque.

Had zero respect for him, he was insanely destructive, but I have to give him that.
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:39 PM
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12. Borderline treasonous? You are fucking kidding me.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:04 PM
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13. Bullshit. Bush didn't deserve respect. You have to EARN respect.
I NEVER considered that SOB, SCOTUS appointed SQUATTER my President. I still loath that man and always will. Just because someone sits in that very comfy WH, doesn't mean they are beyond reproach when they do bad things. They really aren't any better or any more important than the people they work for....US. Anyone who represents something I abhor, isn't getting respect. Why the hell should they? They're WRONG. They're destructive. They're mean. They're evil. They're hateful. They're REPUBLICAN.

The PRESIDENCY isn't what it use to be. That flew out the door with the SCOTUS making it their job to appoint someone to that office.

Why does a President automatically deserve respect? That makes no sense.

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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:27 PM
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15. That's exactly what the Repubs were telling the left during GWB's term
They accused us of being traitors to our country too, when we criticized him


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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:29 PM
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16. Respect can be lost.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:45 PM
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17. I don't have true expertise on presidential history
But, I think Obama has been disrespected in ways that presidents have not been. Accusations that he's not a citizen. A guy yelled "you lie" during the SOU address. Someone calls him and lies to him and tells the press he did it. A slew of accusations that he's secretly a republicans, treasonous, etc.

Disrespect coming from enemies and former allies. We are permitted, even obligated to criticize our elected officials. But there is a way to do it with more respect than I have seen sometimes.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:42 AM
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18. They were pretty vicious in earlier times...
But they weren't on TV...

All the real salacious stuff was put out locally and the national media never really saw what was going on...
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 10:38 AM
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30. In terms of modern history, though
Ford took office as president after never having been elected to the executive branch on the heels of an incredibly corrupt president.
Bush took office after questionable election results.
Both were treated with more respect than Obama who was elected by a wide margin.

What's wrong with this picture?
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:46 AM
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19. They're just politicians
Not monarchs, not gods. just saying.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:49 AM
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20. Gore Vidal writes in "Point by Point Navigation"
that Americans don't say "our President" in the way the British say "our Queen". He says, Americans use "the president".
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:54 AM
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21. Yeah, I don't think so. Nationalist garbage. nt
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 01:55 AM by Modern_Matthew
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:31 AM
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29. I repect the office, not the person...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:56 AM
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22. I guess I'm the worst kind of American then. It's an elected position...nothing more.
It's not the office or the title that I have any respect for - it's the character of the person holding the office/wearing the title that determines whether I respect them or not.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:04 AM
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23. Yawn. -1
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:08 AM
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24. he was appointed as the President
he didn't win the election(s) so I have no qualms about saying that he was not my President.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:40 AM
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25. He was the installed president (gatekeeper) for the wealth heist. He was SElected, not elected.
Barack Obama was legally elected. By a landslide. That's the difference.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:42 AM
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26. I spent eight years as notmypresident
The fuck stole the election. He was never ever a legitimate president.
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:44 AM
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27. ITA
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:49 AM
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28. Except that for some of us Bush was not our legitimate President
He didn't win the elections. He was selected. And I, for one, never once forgot that. It's no big fucking surprise that we're where we are now because of that day. Everything since has been illegitimate because it's been based on a foundation of lies.
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