Need some quick help refuting a rethugian

Duppers

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:10 PM
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Need some quick help refuting a rethugian

Him: "Explain and figure 15,000 new IRS agents, 32 new czars (along with their supportive staff), 159 NEW offices, agencies and programs created under Obamacare, and the list could go on, but I'm tired of typing."

According to Wiki, the 32 new czars is right. His spiel is that govt. spending is through the roof under Obama.

Help.

Thx.

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Tx4obama

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:11 PM
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1. Having czars is not new. Bush had a ton of them too. n/t.

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rurallib

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:11 PM
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2. I would ask for specifics, else he is just making it up.

or at least a citation, which no doubt is crap.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:15 PM
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3. Somebody got their numbers wrong. 5100, not 15,000.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/14/us-usa-budget-irs-idUSTRE71D6MB20110214

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Firebrand Gary

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:16 PM
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4. Oh please, those numbers are not accurate.

Besides if their were that many new IRS agents it would be to retrieve the American peoples stolen money handed out in the masses under G.W.

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Luminous Animal

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:17 PM
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5. Where did you get 32 new "czars"? Bush had 33 "czars", Obama has 37. According to wiki.

Which sound about right given that Wiki shows 4 new positions created by Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

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proud patriot

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:18 PM
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6. I would used that link and then attack on SS and medicare

while hitting on big oil subsides and corps paying ZERO taxes.

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FSogol

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:19 PM
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7. Czar is nothing more than a cute name for the managers and directors of the Executive Branch of govt

Every President has these. To pretend there is something different about them is to not understand basic civics and the 3 branches of govt.

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Curmudgeoness

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:24 PM
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8. I will start with that new IRS agents comment.

Here is a link to refute it:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/

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JaneQPublic

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Thu Aug-11-11 08:59 PM
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9. And here's factcheck.org's answer on the czar question

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/

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Rosa Luxemburg

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Thu Aug-11-11 09:03 PM
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10. Who makes this stuff up? GOP speak

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