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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:06 PM
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Police Chief Confirms Detaining Photographers Within Departmental Policy
Long Beach Post:

Police Chief Jim McDonnell has confirmed that detaining photographers for taking pictures "with no apparent esthetic value" is within Long Beach Police Department policy.

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This policy apparently falls under the rubric of compiling Suspicious Activity Reports (SAR) as outlined in the Los Angeles Police Department's Special Order No. 11, a March 2008 statement of the LAPD's "policy … to make every effort to accurately and appropriately gather, record and analyze information, of a criminal or non-criminal nature, that could indicate activity or intentions related to either foreign or domestic terrorism."

Among the non-criminal behaviors "which shall be reported on a SAR" are the usage of binoculars and cameras (presumably when observing a building, although this is not specified), asking about an establishment's hours of operation, taking pictures or video footage "with no apparent esthetic value," and taking notes.


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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:09 PM
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1. Yeah it is called a police state.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 03:09 PM by Rex
9/11 changed everything.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:22 PM
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2. taking pictures or video footage "with no apparent esthetic value,"...
...no doubt we will now see dozens of arrests of Hollywood notables, as they run around LA filming their latest movies, 90% of which arguably have no esthetic value whatsoever?

Right?

What a load of un-Constitutional CRAP!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:29 PM
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3. "Clerks" "Are You Open?"
"You'll have to come with me, sir. You're being detained."
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:26 PM
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9. Whoever did Ishtar?
Absolutely a load.

-Hoot
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:32 PM
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4. Paging the ACLU...
This is a first amendment lawsuit just waiting to happen.

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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 05:15 PM
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5. The courts have been slapping that shit down left and right.
These policies could get expensive for the city of LA for any detainments where there is no criminal activity or suspition of any.

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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 05:21 PM
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6. Do they really think real terrorists will be that obvious?? Dumb ass cops!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 05:22 PM
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7. "As California goes..."
Looks like that narrative is no longer operative. We're in the mood for a fight.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:56 PM
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8. Much as I like to bitch about the cops...
Reading the story (and the original about the 'detainment'), it sounds like the cop was cordial and asked to see his ID.

THAT was the detainment.

After a check of his license, the officer 'made it clear that Wolff was welcome to remain and continue to take pictures'.

Yeah, they shouldn't be detaining photographers regularly, but if something really IS suspicious, it's not necessarily wrong for an officer to be able to question someone IMO.
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maheanuu Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:52 PM
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11. Who determines
the term Suspicious? Now that is the 6,000,000.00 question, Isn't it?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:28 PM
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10. Then those reports are sent to a FUSION center...
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 10:04 PM
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12. If it doesn't look like Thomas Kinkade, it has no aesthetic value.



:sarcasm:




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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 10:11 PM
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13. Photography is not a crime.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:22 AM
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14. kick(nt)
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