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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:50 PM
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Anybody else watch the '60 minutes' propaganda show?
Poor poor Cisco has $40 Billion in overseas accounts and they don;t want to pay USA taxes.

Poor poor Cisco only want to pay 5% so they can 'create jobs' in America.

And of course the Corporate Whore Lesley Shahl, corporate whoring the 'the corporate taxes are so high'.

These pricks want the reduced taxes so that they can pay their CEO;s and stockholders millions.

It is the Helmsley mantra - 'only little people pay taxes'.

And, I have stock in CISCO....

All they want is their Billion$ and to Hell With The People..

America is crumbling...they just want to pocket their untaxed billions... Fucking Freaks...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:55 PM
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1. The US is just another geographical location to them, they could care less about
the country and/or the citizens. The US could go down in flames and they would still have their assets.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:00 PM
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4. Exactly. And get this - this is our country and they couldn't give a damm
If everyone is taxed properly, everyone, including our country would do great...

But they could care less....


Time for us to say.....STOP.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:57 PM
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2. And this applies to all our 'American corporations'...
They don't want to pay taxes and build the very goddamm country that provided the
means for them to thrive.

Yes, it is America, with all the infrastructure and customers, that allowed these
entrepreneurs to build their business and make their Billions...

And they don;t want to give back.

Bastards...
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:59 PM
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3. I watched that too, and all I could think is "this is blackmail".
Mega corporations are blackmailing us, holding us hostage, and he came right out and told us that he doesn't care.

"We CAN'T bring that money back to the US". Can't. Don't you just love it.

Since you have stock, you are welcome to go to the annual shareholder meetings. I might just do that to question what you saw today. I doubt you are the only one infuriated over this.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:05 PM
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7. You know - I just might go to the annual meeting.
It will be a burden on me but it is time I and everyone else put their money where their mouth is...
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 07:01 PM
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43. Please do! That is what will change our society!!
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:01 PM
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5. What worries me . . .
is that there are still far too many Americans who fall for this load of crap. :banghead:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:02 PM
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6. Please elaborate....
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:06 PM
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9. That lowering corporate taxes will lure back jobs.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 09:08 PM by Brigid
It won't. But too many Americans still believe it will.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:09 PM
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10. Agreed. It is a sham...
All they want is to pocket the cash...
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:06 PM
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8. 60 Minutes used to be the best show on TV!
Now there's too many celebrity puff pieces on it--and I don't care for the "stars" they feature.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:13 PM
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11. Yes, it was once the Best show... A 'really big sho(w)e..
I usually don't watch 60 minutes because like CBS ABC and NBC they are all
corporate Whores propagandizing American.

Civil, real, intelligent Americans believe in the alphabet News not knowing it is pure propaganda.

We use to have real news - Walter Cronkite, et al...

Now - corporate Whores.

(No offense to sex workers)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:19 PM
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12. it started out like the 60 minutes of old....catching the lady overseas at 'company headquarters'
and there was no one there....

then went on to excuse any business for going overseas because our tax rates are such a burden.....
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:31 PM
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13. There really isn't alot to post about on this topic...
We have experienced this for the last 30 years, especially the last 11-12 years.

The mere fact that America, you and I, don;t matter anymore means... we don;t matter any more to them.

The world is their world and their home and their 'market'.

And we no longer matter... Because we allow them to think we no long matter...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:45 PM
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14. and.. CBS annual income statement
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/cbs/financials
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:52 PM
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16. Can you elaborate on your point about the CBS financial statements?
Not sure of your point...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:07 PM
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20. just to note how large a corporation they are
these days they tend to look out for their own
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:14 PM
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21. Absolutely... They run ads from all the multinational corps and they will never...
...run a story contrary to the corporate message.

Therefore our evening news and 'news shows' only support the corporate message which
is contrary to the truth...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:22 PM
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23. and to do any differently, one may meet the same
fate as Dan Rather..
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:47 PM
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15. I liked the Top Gear and Pujols stories.
But yeah, pity them.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:53 PM
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17. Why Propaganda?
didn't they just expose the assholes tax cheaters?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:56 PM
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18. Perhaps it's my middle-class sensibilities showing, but I think...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 09:56 PM by JHB
..."How about you bring it home and just pay your damn taxes."
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:58 PM
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19. it was pretty sad that the only line that Lesley seemed to utter against the tax dodging cheats
was at the very end when she said it sure sounds like they're begging for a handout.

They need to force any corporation to pay the difference in tax rate if they move their company outside the US.



http://www.cafepress.com/barackobama12
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:38 PM
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27. ^^^ PROOF OF LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!!! ^^^

/teabagger
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:45 AM
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39. ha! exactly. the teahadists will only here that line & claim MSM liberal bias! nuts...


http://www.cafepress.com/barackobama12
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:18 PM
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22. The "bottom line" is their country.... their god.
They use our country like toilet paper. They use our infrastructure, our schools, our labor, our laws, our courts, our cops, our military back-up if they get jammed up... and they are not interested in coughing up their share.

Never mind that 35% bullshit... they all have lawyers to protect them from the IRS.

Traitors.

If they want to be on their own, I suggest we let them do just that... no protection.

That piece was the worst piece of Shock Capitalism propaganda I've seen.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:28 PM
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25. Traitors and traitorous is my preferred adjuective as well...
Treason and treasonous really don;t apply.

But Traitors - yes, that is what they are. Purposefully harming America and Americans for personal or corporate gain....
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:23 PM
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24. What I would wonder
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 10:24 PM by fujiyama
is if offered, would they take a corporate tax cut in exchange for income and capital gains tax hikes?

My guess is they wouldn't because ultimately it's all about their own personal greed. It's so obvious. In so many cases these CEOs don't give a shit about their companies, let alone the workers. That's why over the last several years we've seen so many CEOs take ridiculous compensation packages and get a golden parachute even if their company is going bankrupt.

Where is this mythical, master of the universe bullshit work ethic we've been fed? These CEOs are a bunch of fucking pirates!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:33 PM
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26. just out of curiosity, why do we tax only foreign earnings that are "repatriated"
why can't we tax foreign income of american corporations even if it isn't repatriated?
is there some treaty that this would violate (though certainly the previous oval office occupier had no qualms about violating treaties).

i know, it'll never happen; corporations have far too much power, but one can dream....
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:39 PM
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28. "These pricks want the reduced taxes so that they can pay.... stockholders millions."
Pay stockholders millons? hee- hee - you made a funny!
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:04 PM
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31. My quote was to 'pay CEOs and stockholders millions'...
Bad try...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:35 PM
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42. Sorry about that - my sarcasm hit the wrong target.
:blush:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:42 PM
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29. Horrible spelling and grammar, but a very pertinent story. For the record, her name is Leslie Stahl.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 10:43 PM by HCE SuiGeneris
"Poor poor Cisco only want to pay 5%" (ack) Really, you can do better than that.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:49 PM
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30. Thanks... I even looked up her name for spelling...
And I still mistyped...

What's wrong with my sentence on "...to pay 5%'?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:09 PM
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32. want vs. wants
It's important in the conveyance of your message.

Be well. :hi:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:12 PM
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33. Collective Nouns can be both singular or plural...
Thus, I am correct...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:20 PM
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35. If you say so...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 11:23 PM by HCE SuiGeneris
I only wants to help.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:24 PM
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36. I always appreciate being corrected if I mistype or make a grammar error,
but it appears you were only blowing smoke out of your....asshole...right?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:29 PM
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37. Perhaps I could have approached the grammatical error in a more palatable manner.
But, I fear that my point is lost.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:41 PM
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38. Either my grammar was correct or not....Please show that I am incorrect...or admit you are wrong
My misspelling was a s.e.v.e.r error, yes, but I do not think the want vs wants is incorrect.

It appears you are deflecting your mistake - right?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:29 AM
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41. I imagine assistance mixed
I imagine assistance mixed with a back-handed compliment is not assistance at all... merely a vehicle for the back-handed compliment.
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:14 PM
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34. 60 minutes is pimping for Cisco now? Wow, how the mighty have fallen.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 11:14 PM by indurancevile
Corporate taxes pay the smallest percent of the national budget in over 50 years.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:04 AM
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40. If someone would hide a nickle bag of weed along with that $40B - the gov't
would spend untold amounts tracking it down!

How is this not illegal? If they're openly talking about it, how come we can't go get it? Seems that if I were to go on TV talking about how I hid $1,000,000 in my off shore account to avoid taxes, the IRS would come down on me with both feet
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