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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:40 AM
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Bernie Sanders Talks Up Primary Challenge to Obama...
Edited on Mon Aug-15-11 11:45 AM by Recursion
...as 'A good idea for our democracy and the Democratic Party'.

Via Nation of Change.

(emphases mine)

Vermont Senator Bernie Sander continues to argue that a Democratic primary challenge to President Obama would be “good for democracy and for the Democratic Party.”

Sanders will not be a candidate. The Vermont independent, who caucuses with Senate Democrats, is running for re-election in 2012.

But Sanders, who has been sharply critical of Obama’s compromises with the Republican right on economic and fiscal policy, continues to talk up the idea of a primary challenge as a vehicle to pressure the president from the left. He is not alone. Ralph Nader is actively encouraging a primary race. And one-third of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents tell pollsters that they favor a primary challenge to the president, while just 59 percent oppose such a run.

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Who might challenge Obama? Sanders isn’t naming names. But in an appearance on C-SPAN’s Newsmakers program that was taped Friday, Sanders said: “I am sure there are serious and smart people out there who can do it,”


Maybe nobody wants to take the risk. Maybe nobody viable thinks he should be primaried. Or maybe progressive lawmakers don't want to disappoint the base the way any actual politician has to to accomplish anything.

Also, I love the spin that "one third" support and "just 59 percent" (nearly twice as many) oppose.

Finally, as an open question: what concrete policy or administrative differences would a post-primary Obama second term have as compared to a non-primaried Obama second term? (ie, is there any evidence at all that "pressure" in a primary translates into different governing practices.)

:popcorn:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:49 AM
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1. On your last point, I doubt that a primary challenge would change policies pushed...
...since it's pretty clear that both parties respond to the wealthy and corporations rather than the majority of citizens.
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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:50 AM
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2. Counterproductive. Focus on the problem--Congress. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:55 AM
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3. I'd trade the White House for both chambers, personally
Except for that nagging SCOTUS problem. I think state legislatures are even more important.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:56 AM
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4. focus on both n/t
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 11:59 AM
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5. You can't beat something with nothing!
Looking over Governors and Senators, there aren't any obvious candidates.

In future races, maybe a Andrew Cuomo or a Sherrod Brown. But not this race.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:00 PM
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7. Unfortunately the only viable candidate politically I can see is Bayh
I don't think a primary would move the Democratic party very far to the left, at any rate.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:00 PM
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6. Sanders should run as an indie.
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BackToThe60s Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:06 PM
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8. Well, there's the problem center-squared, ain't it?
Everybody's TALKING about a primary challenge (or at least the possibility thereof), but no one is stepping up to the plate.
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