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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:38 PM Original message |
Bite experts conclude pit bull 'Gunner' sole attacker of Pacifica woman |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's another article with slightly different details: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. thank you Xema. Still not sure why a 125 lb dog could be considered a pitbull |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:03 PM Original message |
That's the detail for me that's like |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Possibly. I had a 93-pound pit bull.n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Most common 35-55, can be 22-110 (rare), link... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
106. I had a 99 lb Doberman. He was freakishly large but fully registered |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. That is so weird |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. That was an opinion piece, not a news article (nm) |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Dear lord, unneutered |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I would think that dog bite injuries would look a lot different than |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. That's what the pit bull apologists |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. The marks could have come after the fall |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Well, the one thing I wouldn't want in a pet would be a tendency |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. There is NO evidence that a ladder was involved |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
98. The Examiner is a hair better than World Nut Daily. n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. i agree. they have to be neutered. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. chows are vicious dogs to be sure, what a horrid story |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. the girl was lucky her brother was able to |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. Huh. But an anonymous neighbor, quoted by a pit rescuer, said she fell off the ladder! |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. And of course... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The husband said the dog didn't charge them, and media posted a retraction. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Wait a second... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. No. I am saying people who prejudge a group based on some are bigoted. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. So it's okay to characterize a person as a bigot |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. You are basing your dislike of a pitbull based on the actions of a 125 dog that isn't a pitbull |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I'm basing my dislike of pit bulls |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. this dog may have been part pit, but not all. I lived with a 125 lb dog who was |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I had a 110 Lbs. Doberman |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. pit bull jaws are no more powerful than any other dog of the same size. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. The problem that I am trying to point out is not... |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
89. Maybe they're "sexing up" the weight. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
90. The dog was called a pit bull by media because it's a generic term for dogs with certain features |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. +1000 |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
77. perhaps she fell into the dog's mouth |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. You mean the pretty puppy didn't get bloody by "nudging" her to wake her up...? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Yeah, I read that yesterday, too |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Hey You! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Are you seriously calling me an "apologist" ? Seriously? How is a 125 lb dog a pitbull? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I'm sorry, I guess it was someone else that called people who blamed the dog "assholes". |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. I don't call people assholes. you bad. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Did I call you specifically an apologist... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Of course you didn't because that would be a callout. Rather like me not calling you |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. You just called me bigoted a second ago |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No, I didn't. I described behavior like you did. Here are the quotes.... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You directed it specifically at me |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. "We view those who vilify based based on the actions of some as bigoted." is NOT directly specifiall |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Since you replied to me |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. ok, sounds good. Let's go upthread to discuss the issues. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
51. this site puts their weight up to 110 - so 125 does not sound unreasonable |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
93. i looked at 4 stories, none said "125 pounds". The OWNERS say pitbull |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Here you go, got it from Xema |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. WTF? What kind of nut would bury a person with the animal that killed her? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I know! |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Why is it almost always Pits and "mistaken" Pits killing full-grown healthy adults? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. That was a Presa Canario |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. I know. I mentioned that case as an example of medea hype in a non-pit death case. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Gee, why would msm report mistakenly? As Aerows says, that is not a pit but a Presa Canario |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I know it was a Presa. The two whack jobs were keeping it for their white supremacist buddy. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Actually |
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cabot (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
96. Agreed |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. My question still stands: Where are all the reports of non-pits killing healthy adults? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. And my question still stands. Why would MSM report pits and mistaken pits? |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. It's been established the dog in the OP is a Pit. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. No, it hasn't. The dog in OP is 125#, too large for a pit bull. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I haven't really seen any |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hard to wrap my mind around |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. i thought she fell off a ladder and everyone an ass for accusing the poor pit. nt |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Well |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:08 PM Original message |
i read. i have lived next to 3 rots, and 2 pits for a decade. you know, one of the"bad" owners. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Fail. Quit misquoting me and claiming I said things I didn't. |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Maybe she was eating a corndog on the ladder... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. you |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Exactly! |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. In this case, when it involves a tragiic death, that was not funny. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. i hear ya. and was hesitant. but this story has gone so far beyond a womans death |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R. Thanks for the update... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. Whew... |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. FYI |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. When there is lightning |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It must be awful to live with perpetual fear |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Living in perpetual fear? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. and sensible people don't allow pregnant women to stand on ladders |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. I wouldn't say that |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. MSM lies, and their coverage sucks, unless |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. i come inside when the lightening starts..... regardless of odds. nt |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. 300,000 people every year |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Most people avoid lightning. Most don't deliberately go outside with a golf club and |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
109. The world is so scary |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. You ever been attacked by a stray dog? |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's a very sad story |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. so the size of the pit is more important than a woman's life? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. When an incorrectly id'd dog is used, it is important. When that then is used to condemn |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. please provide the source where it is claimed the dog was misidentified |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Isn't it the owner who's identified the dog breed? Is there a pit bull incident |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. sure there is |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. You know, I've never seen other dog breeds examined this closely |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. After 38 years and 17 dogs |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
65. Xema, let's check this out again in a couple wks when the autopsy/necropsy are done. thx for update |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Okay, now this article is interesting |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. understanding the special needs and handling required |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. But, it still might not be a pit bull. The media gets it wrong, you know--or they're sensationalist |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. I bet it was a mis-identified Golden Retriever mix. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
108. It's not the dog, it's the owner??? n/t |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
99. Me too |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
81. Regardless of breed, that the dog was not neutered and was named, "Gunner", says something. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yep. There's a big Pit I see in my neighborhood being walked by a 13ish year old girl. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. I saw that, too |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. I have a 105 lb guy |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
105. My last 3 pits |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
100. Newsflash: Dogs are dangerous |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
101. Glad that's cleared up. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
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