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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:37 PM Original message |
Catholic Christian social teaching strongly opposes tea party views |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Catholic Republicans.. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. There are plenty of Catholic swing voters, too. They can still be appealed to. n/t |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. The bishops aren't even remotely interested in talking to swing voters... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Actually, Catholic Bishops HAVE been speaking out on social justice issues. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Those are specialsts... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Bishop Hubbard isn't some "specialist." He's the Chairman |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. If he mattered.. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Oh yeah, right. Only one person matters in the whole USCCB. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Reactionaries against Vatican II have obfuscated the fact that the people are the Church, not the |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. That's how I understand it, too. n/t |
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teachthemwell15 (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. That speaking out is way to little |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. It is not entirely impossible that they corrupted themselves for a chance to overturn RvW. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. They thought they had to pretend they were perfect |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Yes, but there still are Catholics around who knew that world 50 years ago AND they remember |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Catholic Republicans are a modern anomaly. nt |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Love your sig... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Wasn't he awesome? nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. The problem, however, is the Church's official position on |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. During the Viet Nam era, the Catholic Church had to respond to the question of soldiers who |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. The Church is not saying that about abortion or gay marriage |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I know. It's not the church that I grew up in, so I don't go anymore. Phone-banking for Kerry |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Actually, they have the exact same stance on all those issues. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Everyone ignores the fact that there has been NO DOGMA on any of that stuff. Papal bulls, yes |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. i.e. nothing "infallible" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The only thing they've even sort of pretended might be infallible |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes, their position on that is the essence of "conservative", i.e. there should be no women priests |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. 100 percent correct |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Rick Perry and his buddies call the Catholic Church "the Great Whore" |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Yup ... need to draw this out. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Yes, and that's why Catholic bashing on DU is self-defeating. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I've seen the Catholic Church insulted and ridiculed by the Left more times than I can count. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Which is why evangelicals HATE Catholics. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Good idea for Democratic Party to make friends with the nation's Catholics, IMO. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Your welcome, Octafish. n/t |
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Necronomiconomics (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. First time I've ever disagreed with Octafish |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Since the Catholic vote helped swing the election to Obama, |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It's not 50/50 |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. I have a friend who ties himself in knots over this. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. Many thanks for your posts of NCR articles, pnwmom |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You're welcome, musette. It's too bad Ted Kennedy isn't around |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. True, and just like Joe, |
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