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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:34 PM
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Texas' voter ID law won't permit VA card, with photo,
Edited on Mon Aug-15-11 04:35 PM by Ilsa
to be used as a form of ID? How preposterous.

I wonder if it's an attempt to suppress Hispanic votes? Hispanics have a higher percentage of military service, if I'm not mistaken.

Tweety was just talking about this. But a gun carry permit is okay?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:39 PM
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1. My VA ID has no information about my residence.
If Texas vote suppression law is like Wisconsin's there is a requirement that the ID show the address of your residence.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:41 PM
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2. I see. I wonder if it would work for the second ID form if two are needed. nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:53 PM
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5. I don't think the alleged fraud is with regard to residence but more with identity
The polling place already has the person's residence and name inscribed on the rolls. Republicans claim to want to match the listed name with a photo and name on an identification card. What they are claiming is that the person presenting himself or herself at the voting place may not be the person living in that district but an imposter (something which happens with exceeding rarity). If they have a photo id with their name on it, it should satisfy the Republican claims of fraud.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:11 PM
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9. I know that the law in WI requires photo and residence infor
I don't know about voter ID laws in other states, but the idea is vote suppression so making it as difficult as possible is the game.

In Wisconsin you can get said ID free, but when asked why you are there the first thing you must say is "I came to get a voter ID" if you don't you'll end up with a state ID (not a driver's license) but have to pay a fee for it. I think the fee is about $33
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:38 PM
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11. A military ID or Passport doesn't show address.
And yet those are valid IDs.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:48 PM
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3. Gun permits are issued by the county in my state and have a address of residence.
V A identification does not have an address on it, but hell it means you live in the United States.
Personally I think this voter I D thing will backfire on the pukes, too many seniors do not drive anymore, and they watch fox news, and vote republican..
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:51 PM
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4. Here's the allowed IDs in Texas when the law goes in effect
Driver's license
Election identification certificate
Dept. of Public Safety personal ID card
U.S. military ID
U.S. citizenship certificate
U.S. passport
License to carry a concealed handgun issued by the Dept. of Public Safety

All of the above must include a photo of the voter. With the exception of the certificate of citizenship, these forms of ID cannot be expired, or cannot have expired more than 60 days before the election.
http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=16602

In an earlier thread I commented that in my town it will be very difficult for a non driver to get a DPS ID since they moved DPS out in the boondocks.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 09:46 PM
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15. What is an "Election identification certificate"?
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:20 AM
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16. I have no clue- I may have to call the Sec of State to find out.n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:57 PM
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 04:58 PM
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7. and the jackass Parry
was just shown on Tweety's show, requisite hay bales and all, saying how (paraphrasing) that the military needs to be PROUD of its POTUS (is that a dog whistle I hear in the background?)
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:05 PM
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8. They're requiring MORE than ID. They're requiring that the ID itself prove everything they want
ID proves that you're you. Anything else is optional, and specific to the purpose of the ID. And since there is no special 'voting ID', there is no ID with requirements designed to match the requirements for voting, and there needn't be. It's irrelevant.

If you're a registered voter, your name is on record, along with the precinct you are registered in. They don't need you to prove in person that you're registered, nor do they need your address. They took care of this stuff when you registered.

Demanding that people carry papers to prove, again, everything they had to prove to register as voters in the first place has no legitimate purpose - it's an extraneous requirement that solely exists to making voting more difficult.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:35 PM
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10. All that's true, but you aren't going to vote in WI without adequate ID
Can't speak for other states, but WI is indeed providing a "Voter ID" for people who don't have a driver's license or other state ID that provides a photo and information on residence.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 06:42 PM
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12. Paging General Holder
Our veterans' right to vote is being stripped. Is anyone there? Hello?
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 06:57 PM
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13. My VA ID can be easily counterfieted, so technically they are right, but I'm glad
they brought this up. They are backpedaling like crazy!!
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:38 PM
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14. There are some possibilities.
The first is that it's tied up with the Real ID act. Texas is in compliance. Virginia and some other states are in official non-compliance, but how far out of compliance they are varies.

IIRC, in Texas a DL has as the expiration date the expiration date of any resident immigrant visa. Not so in Texas. (Heck, in the '80s a French national I knew who was here on a *tourist* visa for 6 weeks was able to get a driver's license that would expire years after his tourist visa expired. He didn't lie or cheat, he said, "I'm here for a few weeks. If I try to get my license in France, I have to take courses and there's a waiting period. Here, I take a test; when I go home I'll take a quick test and it'll transfer.")


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