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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:30 AM
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WikiLeaks: Info Domsheit-Berg Claims To Have Destroyed Includes No-Fly List, BoA, US/Internet...
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 07:33 AM by Hissyspit
@wikileaks

Leak organizations don't destroy information whistleblowers risked their lives to leak.

@holger_stark
Holger Stark
The old cache of unreleased #wikileaks docs seems 2 be gone 4ever. #DDB said 2 me that he has destroyed it. See new #SPIEGEL #openleaks #ccc

https://twitter.com/#!/holger_stark/status/104966690273636353

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,781458,00.html&usg=ALkJrhgM0sa13M0bZFsn_tZpqClnmHsfcg

21/08/2011

Ex-spokesman WikiLeaks destroyed files

Berlin / Hamburg - Former Wikileaks spokesman Daniel Domscheit-Berg claims to have destroyed more than 3,500 unpublished files that had been sent from unknown informants and are now apparently lost irrevocably. These are documents which were stored until the late summer of 2010 on the Wikileaks server and has taken a group to Domscheit-Berg in their leaving the organization.

He had the files "in the last days shredded to ensure that the sources are not compromised," said Domscheit Mountain. Reason: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could not guarantee a safe handling of the material.
In the data base was located on SPIEGEL information including the so-called "no-fly list" of the U.S. government, on which the names of suspects were listed, which is prohibited from entering an aircraft. Assange said of the material would also have insider information from 20 right-wing organizations is one. Domscheit-Berg would not confirm that. Assange calls since the beginning of the publication of the data.

On the platform sympathizers "WL Central" appeared on Saturday evening, a statement that allegedly came from Assange itself. Domscheit Mountain is in it again criticized heavily and it is insinuated that he was accustomed too close ties to intelligence agencies and police authorities. The text also already known allegations against Wikileaks Domscheit mountain repeated, such as, Domscheit-Berg did for his book "Inside WikiLeaks," not in the Assange comes off well, used illicitly internal WikiLeaks chat logs.

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Domscheit-Berg has been promoting for some time, an alternative platform called whistleblower OpenLeaks . The week before he had the project in a lecture at a summer camp run by the Chaos Computer Club presented (CCC) . He was then first of CCC board member Andy Mueller-Maguhn criticized in a SPIEGEL interview, massively , and shortly thereafter by the CCC Board excluded from the association . Since then raging in Germany hacker scene, a heated debate over how to deal with the competing Leaking platforms and their public representatives Domscheit Mountain and Assange. Mueller-Maguhn told SPIEGEL ONLINE, the Board voted for its decision to exclude Domscheit Mountain, learn from the association of both criticism and support. CCC spokesman Frank Rieger had about publicly distanced himself from the exclusion.

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Statement by Julian Assange on the reported destruction of WikiLeaks source material by Daniel (cont) tl.gd/chdoeo

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105042978355154944

http://wlcentral.org/node/2170

2011-08-20 Statement by Julian Assange on the reported destruction of WikiLeaks source material by Daniel Domscheit-Berg

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 08/20/2011 - 22:31

WikiLeaks does not record or retain source identifying information, however the claimed destruction of documents entrusted to WikiLeaks between January 2010 and August 2010 demands the revelation of inside information so sources can make their own risk assessments.

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DDB told me that he had moved into ADBs house in Berlin, without any counter-intelligence cover, going so far as to place his legal name on a street visible mail box and the interior door and that he would work from this location.

At this point WikiLeaks issued a policy directive that DDB not be permitted contact with source material.

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After DDB's suspension in August 2010, he managed, through guile, to convince a German WikiLeaks system administrator, who was an old associate of DDB's, to obtain the keys and data for a large quantity of then pending WikiLeaks whistleblower disclosures.

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J. Assange

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WikiLeaks Statement on Daniel Domscheit-Berg and OpenLeaks Sat Aug 20 23:41:31 2011 GMT Five days short of a (cont) tl.gd/chek37

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105067917816774656

@wikileaks

WikiLeaks Statement on Daniel Domscheit-Berg and OpenLeaks wlcentral.org/node/2171

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105079054914428928

http://wlcentral.org/node/2171

WikiLeaks Statement on Daniel Domscheit-Berg and OpenLeaks

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 08/20/2011 - 23:52
Daniel Domscheit-Berg Openleaks Wikileaks

Sat Aug 20 23:41:31 2011 GMT

Five days short of a year ago, on 25 August 2010, WikiLeaks suspended former employee "Daniel Domscheit-Berg". Over the last 11 months, we have tried to negotiate the return of various materials taken by Mr. Domscheit-Berg, including internal communications and over 3000 unpublished, private whistleblower communications to WikiLeaks. Mr. Domscheit-Berg has repeatedly attempted to blackmail WikiLeaks by threatening to make available, to forces that oppose WikiLeaks, these private communications and to which Mr. Domscheit-Berg is not a party. He has stated he will commit this action, should WikiLeaks move to charge him with sabotage or theft. Mr. Domscheit-Berg has refused to return the various materials he has stolen, saying he needs them, solely, to carry out this threat. Mr. Domscheit-Berg has already, secretly, and with malicious intent, disclosed portions of the private communications content to other parties, to the harm of WikiLeaks.

The negotiations have now been terminated by the mediator, Andy Müller-Maguhn, who has stated that he doubts Mr. Domscheit-Berg's integrity and claimed willingness to return the material and that under those circumstances Müller-Maguhn cannot meaningfully continue to mediate. In response, Mr. Domscheit-Berg has stated that he has, or is about to, destroy thousands of unpublished whistleblowers disclosures sent to WikiLeaks. The material is irreplaceable and includes substantial information on many issues of public importance, human rights abuses, mass telecommunications interception, banking and the planning of dozens of neo-nazi groups. Our sources have in some cases risked their lives or freedom attempting to convey these disclosures to WikiLeaks and to the public.

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It should be noted that Domscheit-Berg´s roles within WikiLeaks were limited and started to diminish almost a year ago as his integrity and stability were questioned. He has falsely misrepresented himself in the press as a programmer, computer-scientist, security expert, architect, editor, founder, director and spokesman. He is not a founder or co-founder and nor was there any contact with him during the founding years. He did not even have an email address with the organization until 2008 (we launched in December 2006). He cannot program and wrote not a single program for the organization, at any time.

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Mr. Domscheit-Berg has acted dishonestly, he has admitted to stealing WikiLeaks property, and has admitted to the deliberate sabotage of Wikileaks’ operations, impeding it from carrying out the will of its sources. He has lied, constantly, and flagrantly, to the public, to us, to our lawyers, and to the mediator, Andy Müller-Maguhn.

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Domscheit-Berg claims to have irrevocably destroyed 3500+ leaks from whistleblowers | Spiegel translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ac…

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105234128378658816

@wikileaks

We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included a copy of the entire US no-fly list.

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105244078094028800

@wikileaks

We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included five gigabytes from the Bank of America.

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105244480457801728

@wikileaks

We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed whistleblower data included the internals of around 20 neo-Nazi organizations

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105245148065181698

@wikileaks

We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included US intercept arrangements for over a hundred internet companies

https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/105246329529319424
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:20 AM
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1. kicking for visibility
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:21 PM
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2. what an asshole
Has this Berg person ever done anything constructive? He increasingly looks like an intelligence plant. Maybe it's easy to say in hindsight, but I'm puzzled how anybody could trust this slimy creep in the first place. Assange needs to become much more paranoid than he apparently was.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 11:46 PM
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3. Asshole is an under-statement! n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 11:53 PM
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4. Never trusted that guy. I think the CIA got to him and he
took the easy way out. If it's the same guy who was in the Documentary. The one who started his own 'wikileaks'. If I were a whislte-blower I would not trust him for a minute. What a rat if he did this and he was the one pointing fingers at others.

Too bad about the no-fly list though.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 01:57 AM
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5. I just thought of something. This would explain why
Assange did not release the Bank of America information he promised. The mole, and now it seems that's what he was, stole it. When you consider what Anonymous revealed about BOA's efforts to prepare for that event, how they hired those contractors who tried to take down Anonymous and who were going to smear Glenn Greenwald who they viewed as a threat because he reported so much on the Wired story and Bradley Manning, it is would not be surprising if that guy was working for BOA through the Intel Agencies who were also involved. Rep. Hank Johnson held a hearing demanding to know what role the FBI and/or CIA had in all of that. I hope he keeps demanding answers.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 02:02 AM
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6. I wonder why this POS would blow up his own credibility in this way.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 02:09 AM
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7. But but but... Domsheit-Berg says that Assange is weird. I knew this guy was a mole.
I hope Anonymous retaliates against the asshole.
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