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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 01:48 PM
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Poll question: When will marijuana be legalized in the USA for recreational usage ?
Your thoughts please.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 01:53 PM
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1. It will be a state-by-state rollout, going from decriminalization to legalization.
There will likely be an "Arizona" or two, holding out for way too long when the rest of the world has passed them by (the reference is to Arizona holding out against Martin Luther King Day, not MJ policy).

It'll be slow, and then it will be quick. Sort of like gay marriage, which still has a ways to go before it's not an everyday/everywhere thing.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:16 PM
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11. I think your take on this is most plausible...
That's why I support the Marijuana Policy Project, which has taken a state-by-state, locality-by-locality approach. There may be a so-called "tipping point" when (as with concealed-carry of firearms, or gay rights/marriage), a large number of states will "go over" and give some impetus to very late national action.

For years I have speculated somewhat wildly, that if the GOP wanted to finally break down the Democratic Party, and gains its goal of "permanent power" (that's the GOP expression), they will do so by co-opting issues like drug legalization and even gay rights (Perry seems to want to distance himself from a no-win stand on this). I mean, they own the issue of drug prohibition, and are uniquely set up to dictate the frame, and have benefited greatly from gay-bashing. And they've already torn a near-permanent segment out of the Democrats by smashing up gun-control laws. If they do this, they will capitalize on getting the support of an increasingly apolitical, cynical younger voter which is resigned to his/her plight as long as they aren't fucked with too much.

As some of my Democratic activist friends have said for years, no one wants to deal with those hot-button issues. Yeah. Right.
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Frosty1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 01:55 PM
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2. When prisons are no longer profit making enterprises.
n/t
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:22 PM
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14. +1
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 01:59 PM
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3. I think it wil be a loooong time from now
based on the fact that the feds can't even get behind medical marijuana yet. If more states get behind med. mj, that will help. Let's say over half of the states have it, the feds may have to ease up on their crackdowns. For recreational use I think it will take at least another 20 - 30 years.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:00 PM
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4. I prefer the term "re-legalized"
just to remind people that it was perfectly legal for centuries :)
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:25 PM
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15. I think you're on to something.
We need that on a bumper sticker: Re-legalize Marijuana.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:01 PM
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5. law would have to be changed at federal level
I don't see that happening anytime soon. 20-30 years...maybe.
quite possibly never
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:02 PM
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6. It's been virtually decriminalized in Alaska since 1975.
I don't even pay any attention to the federal laws because law enforcement here only busts people they catch with big commercial grows.
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:06 PM
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7. When the big banks stop laundering
drug money, which is never. That is the only thing keeping many of them solvent.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:07 PM
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8. As soon as the politicians figure out a way to cash in on it.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:08 PM
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9. When we have a progressive administration
There is actually alot of interest on both sides of the aisle to do this. It's just going to take someone to take interest and frame the issue.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:15 PM
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10. When enough of corpAmerica gets in on the action.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 02:17 PM by CrispyQ
One of the busiest stores in a little strip mall that I frequent, is the shop to purchase grow supplies.

Miracle Grow has a special grow mixture for MJ.

Last week I met a man who sells insurance for grow operations & dispensaries. No kidding! They insure your crop & your shop.


on edit: That said, it's going to be a battle. There are a lot of old attitudes about MJ. Even though Colorado has MMJ laws, many of the local municipalities are making it very difficult for dispensaries & stores to operate.

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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:19 PM
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12. When we've had enough and take control of our country.
Instead of compromising.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:20 PM
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13. When all the old hippies who are making a fortune selling it illegally are gone
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 02:26 PM by tularetom
It's a fact that much of the opposition to recent legalization efforts in CA came from the northern counties where the cultivation and sale of weed is the backbone of the local economy.

Fishing and timber are in the crapper in these areas. Large scale central valley type farming isn't feasible. Vineyard development is pricey.

All that's left for the small grower is ganja. As long as the supply is somewhat limited they have some control over the price. And they don't really feel warm and fuzzy about corporate America getting in on the action.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:26 PM
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16. To answer my own poll, I think it will be re-legalized on the federal level
It may take until 2045 or even longer, but I think it's inevitable. I'm really curious why no one has checked the "against legalization" option. I guess all the stealth freepers are afraid to do so.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:26 PM
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17. It will not be legalized as long as the Prison-Industrial-Complex owns politicians.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 02:26 PM by Tesha
But a day will come when that will end and at that
point, sanity will suddenly break out and marijuana
will no longer be the anathema it is seen as today.

I picked 2030 but not for any strong reason; I just
figure that's about when people will finally be
ready to straighten out the basic problem of our
government being a wholly-owned subsidiary of
the Corporations and the rich.

Tesha
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:41 PM
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18. Not in my lifetime, I'm sure .........
but that will probably be ten years at the most.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 03:23 PM
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19. It's really hard to say
The public tide has surprisingly turned. If we had a different Gov't, I think we'd have it already.

I think it will be linked with this coming second crash. If we go fascist, expect it to continue to be legal in pill form and nothing else. If we go the other way, I think legalization/regulation will be a big thing to come of it.
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Harry J Asslinger Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 04:22 PM
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20. Agreed on all points
A recent Angus Reid poll (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/43975/majority-of-americans-ready-to-legalize-marijuana/) of 1,003 Americans brought back results of 55% support for marijuana legalization. The next most supported drug asked about in the survey was MDMA, with 10% support. Now, this is obviously a small (but somewhat representative) sample size, but the general trend across these polls has been increasing support of marijuana legalization.

The need for the money around alcohol was a factor in bringing an end to Prohibition, and it will be the same for cannabis. The worse things get, the further and quicker it will be pushed to the forefront. Legalization will be on the 2012 ballot in CA and CO.

I voted for 2020.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 04:34 PM
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21. I think we're closer than we've ever been, despite the pressure from the drug war $ gravy-train-ers.
Still, it's an uphill battle, but especially with budgets being cut and money being tight, people are increasingly going to ask "do we REALLY need to spend $80 Billion a year to throw cancer grannies and jamband fans in prison for smoking a joint?"
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:04 PM
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22. Am I the only one surprised by the Never votes ? nt
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