It appears there no longer is a difference between left and right

The right is completely controlled by the rich and large corporations that want to remove all regulations on... well, pretty much everything. The disaster this will cause to this country (not to mention the rest of the world) is total and they are all for it.

The left seems to be admitting defeat and just wants to let them fuck it up. It seems that because we are not turning around the last 30 years of hard right movement on a dime, it is better to just let it all go to hell and hope that some time in the future it gets better. Fuck the millions that will suffer. No point in trying any more, two and a half years is enough, we're tired.

Fucking crazy ass world we live in.

as the "liberal media."

End of story.

Try 30+... with nothing but a vast swing to the right to show for it, EVEN during so-called 'democratic' presidencies.

All in the the noble name of "bipartisanship" and "pragmatism".

would be to stop going farther to the right.
i didn't expect anything to turn on a dime. i did expect the march to the right to stop.

"Free trade", bailouts for banksters, war in the middle east, and mandatory purchase of products from private corporations is what they push.

You hearing a cry for "free trade", war in Libya, or forced purchase of insurance from the people?

Then you must be including Bubba Bill Clinton in that hard right movement, which would be correct, given NAFTA and Gramm-Leach-Bliley. And when you realize that Obama is almost as liberal as Clinton, you can add the 2.5 to the 30 and realize that there is no turn in the works at all, let alone "on a dime".

People on this forum! Sad.

What I see is that the real left is kinda completely disgusted with the Faux left, and rightly so.

In the minds of the public, Obama and the Democratic Party represent "the left".

The bizarre thing is that Obama is now about as 'left' as George HW Bush. Even Bush Sr. tried to fight against Reaganomics. He accurately called it 'voodoo economics'. Unfortunately, the voting public embraced it. So ambitious people like Bush Sr. and Clinton and Obama decided to stop fighting it, because fighting it got in the way of their ambition.

So it seems that the right and the faux left are both serving the rich and the corporations against the people, that there is no difference in a very basic sense.

Without a primary challenger to rally behind, it sorta feels like we, of the real left, have lost the Democratic Party. No leader is there for us to rally behind to fight to re-take it. This after we had rallied behind Obama, many of us, to take it from the heinous Clintons. Something that ended up being a pyrrhic victory. We cannot, and will not, many of us, happily rally behind the guy who betrayed us in our last fight.

We moved mountains in 2008...to get a third Bush term.

And all we have from the people supporting that is "...It's not as bad as the Other Guys!"

SO NOT what I was looking for in the realm of "Hope and Change."

Some of us are still in this fight and will battle anyone who stands in the way, regardless of party affiliation. So you have a choice: Join us in rooting out the forces of corruption and abuse of the middle class and the poor. Or continue cussing out everyone who isn't singing "Kumbayah" with you and President Obama. If you want a party that walks in lockstep, this is not it.

Could one of you, just one of you, posting these stupid finger-wagging, snarky attack lectures think up something original to say? Fuck it's going to be a long campaign season.