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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:36 PM Original message |
The Third Way think tank's plan for Social Security is what Dems are using. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. These groups (and the WH) sure go out of their way to make it complicated |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Did you notice the part where it said not to consider SS by itself? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. With their plan they can shovel money into Wall Street. By raising the |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. "optional private" retirement accounts for those in the workforce and under 30 |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I would END Social Security before EVER privatizing it! |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. Are they going the wrong direction? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think they are going the wrong way. They only care about profit... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. They don't care if we all work |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Or if we all CAN'T work. Operative term = "They don't care." |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
51. Yes they are...Retired at Seventy?...Bullshit...That's too old. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Seriously, I tell my recent college grad friends this all of the time |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Those who influence the controlling narrative control us... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Recommend |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. k&r |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Third Way septic tank is full of trickle down economics and Republican turds. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. If they raised the SS income tax cap to 150K, problem solved. Their approach is too complex. |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. They don't want to solve the problem, they just want our |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:29 AM Original message |
THANK YOU. THIS IS THE DIRTY SECRET: IT ISN'T ABOUT "FIXING" ANYTHING. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
61. Nope. Just smoke and mirrors, helping to obfuscate the fact that THEY WANT THE $$$$. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. More like... |
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PonyJon (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Also, since employers very seldom provide retierment benefits |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. That's what I'd prefer. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. they don't want to solve the problem |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Solvency isn't the goal, ending SSI is the aim |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. We shall see where he lives, post-DC. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. +1000% --- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. True -- and should be raised to $250,000 or cap removed entirely .... |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Third way is and always has been a false flag Republican operation |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I'm not anymore. NO Democrat goes after SS, Medicare, unions, teachers. NO Democrat supports illegal |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. And, of course, there's no debate. Where are the DUers arguing for what a good deal we got? |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. The Third Way (DLC 2.0) and their Neo-Con cousins need to |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. knr - FISA bill, Health Reform bill - Third Way has been there :( n/t |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And they just love the new |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes they do and have been pushing advocating for them, part of the new jobs program. n/t |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. Reverse Robin Hood by any other name... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Here's what the Turd Way wants us to do: |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Chervilant.. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
22. K&R |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. The Third Way is the Democratic Party's Tea Party |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. well said! |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. Privatizing Social Security: Wall Street robs the final $ |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. I really detest the Third Way group. Their way was outdated already in the 90's. |
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ctsnowman (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. Yeah right. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. The Third Way and the Republicans are Setting Up a Corporate Controlled Government |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Fascism. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. yup... |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. K & R |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
32. Dear Boomers, thanks for paying into the Greatest Gen's retirement, now Go Cheney Yourself, love 3rd |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Excellent insight! Yes, now that the Boomers are ABOUT to collect,..... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. what about the Orszag budget? |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
34. My son asked why they want a name that sounds like the Third Reich!! Out of the mouth of babes! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. It meshes well with "The Homeland," does it not? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
36. REC AND KICK. nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. Oh, this is definitely the beach-head. I don't care that I won't see 2049, let alone 2077. This is |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. We know the Koch boys funded the DLC |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
48. ....and so begins the dark ages... |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
49. private pension programs that offer far higher returns and sounder prospects than today's Social Sec |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
50. Of course you all looked at just who they and and who the co-chairs are didn't you. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. "Third Way" my ass...sounds like the same old way if you ask me. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Third Way=Reagan Democrats=Kochheads |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R Your research is what DU needs. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. If someone now could remove the cap on payroll tax, cutting payroll tax rates might be ok... |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. Third Way is disgusting...how do we know this is what they're using though? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. If you ever saw that George Carlin video, be assured, he was NOT kidding. |
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padruig (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
62. I don't GROK this ... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. more here on Orszag budget and Soc Sec cuts: |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
65. Third Way/Same Old Way |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Nice link to the Tall Grass Activist blog. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. Excellent post. As I have said many times before |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
67. We see who these "New" Democrats/Third Way'ers are: |
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freshstart (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
70. SS rates |
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