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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 05:52 PM
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Pax Obama
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/24/pax-obama/

Could it be that when Nobel Peace Laureate Barack Obama leaves office that the defining image of his presidency will have been his use of unmanned drone aircraft and military death squads to achieve the will of the Empire?

Hardly a week goes by in which we do not learn of the deaths of innocent civilians in Afghanistan or Pakistan resulting from attacks by U.S. drones. Attack drones have also been deployed in Libya, Somalia, and Yemen. This form of pilotless aircraft can be used to inflict death and destruction anywhere in the world. Drones are controlled by well-trained, high-tech, gutless assassins seated in air conditioned comfort in front of sophisticated instrument panels thousands of miles away from their intended targets. The beauty of desktop, drone warfare is that it is neat, clean, precise, risk-free, sanitized, and bloodless and can be waged by those who have never set foot on a battlefield or smelled the stench of death. It’s almost like playing a video game.

The Pentagon recently ordered 55 Global Hawk drones for a cool $23 billion. There is even talk of converting the Burlington International Airport in Vermont into a drone base.

Drones represent the perfect instruments of war for a risk averse president who shies away from hand-to-hand political combat. With drones are associated feelings of power and control. We are in charge. There is no face-to-face conflict whatsoever.

More at the link --
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 05:57 PM
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1. Drones make it easy to sell war to a nation to craven to be willing to pay the cost...
If we can bring death from above like some old Testament Jehovah, we do not have to send our sons and daughters to be slaughtered in large numbers. If the citizens do not see the costs of war, then it doesn't matter to most of them who we kill. So an all volunteer military and drones hide the costs of war from the citizens of empire.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 06:02 PM
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2. Ok... we want to stop that (and everything else that is bad)
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 06:09 PM by Amonester
And no need to start it with unnecessary smears about the Nobel Peace prize thingy.
That's the part when you begin losing support... instead of gaining more for the cause, INOMHO.



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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 06:27 PM
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3. I don't think the Nobel reference was the OP's doing
Looks like a quote from the linked article to me.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 06:32 PM
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4. Ok. I need to clarify that I was keeping that fact in mind when I posted
And thanks to you for bringing it up. :thumbsup:






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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 06:50 PM
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5. I don't think the reply implied that it was.
I wonder, though, if the OP would agree with the statement. It's hard to tell.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 07:37 PM
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8. I wondered the same, but when I used 'you' it was in the context of
stating my opinion about what such smears do to 'your' cause, any cause.




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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 07:19 PM
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6. The OP is missing the FACT that a main part of why Obama was awarded the Nobel Prize was ...
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 07:22 PM by Tx4obama

for his work regarding Nuclear Non-Proliferation

Feel free to Google and research the 'work' Obama has done as a U.S. Senator and as President to round up loose nukes.

Here's a start:

In Senate, Obama worked on non-proliferation policy, co-authored "next critical step" on issue
http://mediamatters.org/research/201004090086

http://www.whitehouse.gov/search/site/nuclear%20proliferation

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/382/secure-nuclear-weapons-materials-in-four-years/


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The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html



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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 07:30 PM
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7. + 100 000 000 + Bookmarking.
:fistbump:


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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 07:52 PM
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9. A lot of things get forgotten when there's an agenda, I think.
It's a shame.
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