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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:59 AM
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For the first time, astronomers say they've witnessed a black hole consuming a star
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-sci-black-hole-20110825,0,7250111.story

Astronomers report seeing supermassive black hole swallowing star

The unprecedented sight was revealed in bursts of radiation from a constellation 4.5 billion light-years away, scientists say in the journal Nature.

By Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times

10:07 p.m. CDT, August 24, 2011

For the first time, astronomers say they've borne witness to a supermassive black hole consuming a star.

Two papers released Wednesday by the journal Nature describe powerful blasts of radiation whose brightness and behavior can be explained only by a sun-sized star being torn apart by the gravitational forces of a black hole at the center of its galaxy, the authors say.

Scientists believe they have seen the aftermath of such stellar violence before, in the form of fading glows emanating from distant galaxies, in whose centers supermassive black holes usually reside. But they had never caught one in the act.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:02 AM
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1. recommend
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:06 AM
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2. A constellation 4.5 billion light years away?
A constellation is a pattern of stars in the sky, like Scorpio or Ophiuchi, if you move just a few dozen light years that pattern doesn't even exist any more.

Why can't people who report on science have at least *some* idea what the fuck they are talking about?

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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:40 AM
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6. when newspapers keep cutting specialized
science journalists from their staffs, this is what you get as a result.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:35 AM
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7. Constelations can include galaxies etc. as well. I have seen the points of constelations
shift and move in my relatively short time on the planet. I suspect traveling to our moon, or other planets in the solar system would change the appearance of our constelations depending.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:08 AM
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8. No, the stars making up the constellations are a minimum of about four light years away..
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 07:12 AM by Fumesucker
That would be in Centaurus, Alpha Centauri is the closest star that can be seen with the naked eye, Proxima Centauri is closer but far too dim to see with the naked eye.

Rigel, a bright star in the constellation Orion, is about 800 light years away.

The stars are much, much too far away for travel within the solar system to change the aspects of the constellations.

ETA: There are really only three galaxies that can be seen with the naked eye, M31, the great galaxy in Andromeda and the Magellanic Clouds which are two dwarf galaxies relatively close to the Milky Way, our own galaxy.



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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 05:53 AM
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18. Well thanks for the update.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:58 AM
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12. What constellations include galaxies?
There's only one galaxy that's visible (and just barely) to the naked eye. It looks like a fuzzy spot in the sky.

There are nebulae that are included in constellations, but they're "local."
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:35 AM
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10. Oh, FFS.
Just read "stars in a constellation" and stop being so pedantic.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 08:00 AM
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13. Really, who cares whether reporters get things right or not..
We are all supposed to read what they really meant, not what they actually wrote.

Accuracy, it's only for pedants.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 08:12 AM
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14. The entire galaxy isn't nearly that big
The Milky Way is only about 100,000 light years across

Constellations consist of stars in our local region of the galaxy. When you are lucky enough to see the Milky Way at night, you get some idea how far the NON local stars are.

For reference, Betelgeuse is only 640 light years from Earth. Only VERY distany galaxies are 4.5 billion light years away.

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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 09:26 AM
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16. I think the facts are there but the sentence is poorly written.
The point in question is 4.5 Billion lightyears away. It is found in the constellation mentioned. That just means it is way beyond that group of stars but appears associated with the constellation. We are looking through the constellation to the point of black hole activity.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 09:35 AM
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17. A constellation isn't even anything that has a specific distance..
I'm guessing that the blurb writer was not the writer of the article, the article is pretty good but the blurb doesn't make any sense.

Since I had already read about this I didn't click on the article, I was only commenting on what was in the OP, I just looked over the article in response to your comment.

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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:08 AM
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3. This is wicked cool.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:36 AM
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4. If it is consuming Charlie Sheen I have my money on Sheen
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:38 AM
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5. (self-delete)
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 05:39 AM by MBS
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:22 AM
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9. Well, there goes the neighborhood...
Oops, there goes another neighborhood... -- Amy Wong, Futurama
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:45 AM
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11. "Black hole consuming star". I thought that was the title of dickhead chaney's book. nt
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 09:06 AM
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15. for once the word "awesome" is totally the correct word. k&r
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 05:57 AM
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19. Pics or it didn't happen. n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 06:31 AM
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20. Very cool. This would make Perry's head explode.
It did what??

LoL
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