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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:56 PM
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Abraham Lincoln Quote --
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 03:06 PM
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1. "Of the people, by the people and for the people" is soo 19th centurty and impractical.
Old Abe would've been laughed at as a "viable" candidate by the pundits and party bosses today.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 03:21 PM
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2. Alberto Gonzalez said the laws concerning the Geneva Convention were "quaint".
He should go on trial first!!
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 04:30 PM
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3. Abe could write a sentence.
Yep, he must have gone to Yale like the Bush clan..oops..shouldn't have used the work clan...:bounce:
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:26 PM
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4. I am careful of quotes from Abe Lincoln, a source would be good
Edited on Mon Aug-29-11 08:30 PM by happyslug
To many people fall into the trap of repeating good comments and then attributing to famous people. Ben Franklin in his autobiography even comments on this, noting that it was better to attribute an observation to a famous person from the past then yourself.

Thus you have to be careful when quoting someone from the past, make sure it is from that person NOT something written long afterward and then attributed to that person (The Apostle's Creed for example, is attributed to all 12 of the Apostles, each Apostles gave one line of the creed. The problem is the creed was originally in Greek and the Apostles all spoke Aramaic AND written long after all of them were dead, but the real author or authors of the Apostle's creed thought it would be better for each part to be attributed to one of the 12 Apostles (And some of the doctrines were NOT even developed until the Nicaea Creed was adopted in the 300s, the Apostle's Creed is just a Simplification of the Nicaea Creed). The Apostle Creed is just one example of this problem, a quote attributed to Hitler supporting gun Control was popular among Gun Control Opponents about ten years ago, before it was made clear that Hitler NEVER made the quote. Just a comment on such random quotes and to be careful about them.

Thus the best source for Lincoln is a collection of his speeches, including the Gettysburg Address, his first and Second Inauguration addresses etc. The transcript of his debates with Douglas are another good source (but be careful, the Republican Papers tend to have a slightly different version then the Democratic papers of the time period, the reason is opposition tended to want to quote the opposition is the worse possible light, while the paper on the side of the speaker would think nothing of making a statement "Better" for the candidate they supported. The Paper of Illinois was notorious for this in the late 1850s so even that source one must be careful with.
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