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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:57 PM
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Sue to get your Social Security Money Back …..
Shit you paid for it what’s the problem? Huh? What? WTH are you talking about? It was taken out of your pay check from the money you earned from the last 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 years , and you have documents to prove it …. On every freaking paycheck for that time period.…. besides the yearly statements you been getting …..

Oh yeah not gonna get those ‘yearly statements’ anymore ….. Hmmm trying to do away with the paper trail are they? Just like our paper ballots when voting ….. Is it just me or do I see a pattern here? :shrug:

Just thought I’d throw this out there this afternoon, who knows what will stick in the long run. Hugs.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:04 PM
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1. It would have to be aa class action suit and lawyers would wind up with most of the money.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:07 PM
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3. Well I'm no lawyer ...... but it has to start somewhere ....
this discussion anyway. Thanks for the input.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:06 PM
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2. "In light of the current budget situation, we have suspended issuing Social Security Statements. "
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:16 PM
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5. Thank's for that link ...... n.t.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:47 PM
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12. But we can afford all the wars
and the corruption that goes along with them??? WTF is wrong w/ this picture??

I wonder just how much money TPTB get from the Afghanistan poppy crop???
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:10 PM
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4. I believe you can go to the SS website and request it. Not sure but
think I heard it. Or, you can view it. WTH do I know..
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:34 PM
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10. Well in the long run .....
digital records can be ... ooops ... accidentally deleted .... whatever they concern. Just look at how often this has happened in the last few years of our digital age whether it be 'E Mails' or other records of importance in the news. And oh well ... no one is ever held accountable when it happens. Tough luck.

Okay I just think it is easier to push the 'delete' button .... then to shred all the paperwork ... that others might have a copy of to cover something up. Course printing out everything that comes across you computer could keep you in the ballgame, but who does that?

I'm with you though .... what do I know? Sure would like a copy of my 'vote' if nothing else to be put on paper every 4 years to take home with me anyway at this point. Peace.
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:36 PM
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11. yes i would pay to get copy of actual vote at the box not just receipt
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:52 PM
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13. Back to you as well...n/t
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:21 PM
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6. As a current SS recipient, guess I'm missing something here.
Yes, I recall those annual statements from SS about my account, filed them away but didn't pay much attention. The important one was that which was in place when I filed for benefits. Since then, I don't get the annual statements, which wouldn't mean much anymore. I'm pretty sure you're not suggesting those now on SS sue to get our money back, but I'm not making the connection between not getting the statements affecting the status of our accounts. As another poster linked, the SSA stopped the statements as a cost cutting measure, but looks like benefits can still be calculated on their site.

Just a thought about the paper ballots...I really like Oregon's and now Washington's vote by mail system. Highly recommended!

Tired Old Cynic
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:28 PM
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7. I have TWO YEARS
before I can collect. So I have to SUE them for 40 years of paying into this? SCREW 401K's. THAT is just more CORPORATE WELFARE for WALL STREET.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:03 PM
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20. As another current SS recipient, I can't complain.
I have been receiving benefit payments for the past 7 years, so I don't think I will be suing anyone.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:44 PM
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24. Good for you .....
long as you got yours ... Let me ask you ... do you have kids or grandkids? They working? Is your life just all about me me me?

No one is asking you to personally sue anyone or any government institution, but just to back up politically, philosophically, your offspring or those that come after you to enjoy the benefits you currently have. "I got mine" is so ______ you fill in the blank.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:29 PM
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8. Try reading the small print on those yearly statements.
If I recall correctly, it says that you're not guaranteed to get anything, ever.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:03 PM
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14. No small print..... just read my last statment .... and it says .....
nothing of the sort.

I read the amount may differ from the amounts estimated because of ......

A. Your earnings my increase or decrease in the future. (through employment)
B. They could adjust for cost of living INCREASE.
C. Your estimated benefits are based on 'current law'. The law governing amounts benefit may change. (fuck)
D. Something about railroad employment ... etc...

Okay ... C .... needs to be brought to court before the powers that be try to change it .... yes I added the f word in C.

Peace.
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:33 PM
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9. My last paper said they had 80k of contributions and of course the age was again pushed back as to
when I could get access to a decent portion of that in a monthly payout. I asked my husband why cant I just get a lump sum now before it is all gone to war? I will keep safer than govmnt at this point. Give me the medicare bucks back too if it is not going to be there when I need it
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:48 PM
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17. I feel you ....
in oh so many ways. Bet more then 50% of DU feels this way too .... but what do I know. Thanks for the post, hang in there, hugs.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:18 PM
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15. See Flemming v. Nestor, the Supreme Court case that decided that just because you put money in...
doesn't mean it it yours to take back out.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html

You get whatever Congress decides to give you.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:28 PM
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16. See post #14 .....
Time for a lawsuit? Before our 'leaders' get involved? ;)

Thanks for the post.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:55 PM
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19. a lawsuit? what? are you a lawyer?
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 07:56 PM by pitohui
it is already a sorry situation where to get a disability check from social security you have to pay a substantial percentage to the special social security lawyer, otherwise you get NADA for many, many years

and now you want the same for our old people???

you must be a lawyer

litigation ain't free, you will pay 30 to 40% of your "winnings" to the attorney, depending on whether or not the lawsuit goes to trial

if you have to sue to get your social security, you will already be left with too little to live on, ask your disabled friends for an explanation if you still don't hear what i'm saying

sueing to get your own money is no answer, sueing to get your own money is welfare/wealth transfer to the lawyers
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:44 PM
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22. Ever hear of Pro Bono?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono

geesh ... is it so hard to understand that there are still GOOD PEOPLE without greedy intentions in this world for the better good? Well there are. Just a matter of upbringing I guess. Cynical me (song my nephew wrote) ... peace. ;)
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:50 PM
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18. Precedent can be overturned. Of course it won't be with the current
Supremes, but it is possible down the road.
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:08 PM
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21. It wouldn't work
All those years of paying into ss we were paying for our grandparents and parents ss. I think that is how it works.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:46 PM
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23. You think ..... ?
gee guess that's the law ... you think .... oh boy. Guess we will leave it at that then. :eyes:
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