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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:17 AM Original message |
WikiLeaks Cables: The Bankers Theft of Our Money was Planned Well in Advance |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Closest thing to a smoking gun that I've seen from Cablegate. n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. For the U.S. perhaps. There are plenty of revelations that other countries are pissed off about. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. Gasp! You mean they weren't surprised? Nt |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Since the cable is dated the day after Bear Stearns collapsed, this is hardly surprising |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. .... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. NOT THE US PAPERS .... SO IT IS NEWS. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:53 PM Original message |
So You quote only one English paper .......to find what was revealed |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. The Washington Post waas on PAGE 23 |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. The Guardian is the main English language conduit for the Wikileaks cables |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. We were assured that Bear Stearns was an anomaly. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
89. Who were "the people who lost their hard-earned savings when Bear Stearns went down"? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
73. Sadly American news is incredibly censored and filtered for |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. And this is a dilemma. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
90. For goodness' sake, all those DU threads were based on mainstream media stories |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. yes, but... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. So were a thousand other stories that got no more or less coverage. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Wilful ignorance is not the same as censorship |
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ConnecticutMan1 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Trying to find where it says they are coordinating |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-11 03:44 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Where is this information anywhere in your links? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. + 1. n/t |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Truth out! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Truth hidden because of the election season. Thank John and Sarah for the meltdown |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. Mr. Shit I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Fan in 3.. 2.. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. If only... K&R. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
76. Dream on. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. The financial meltdown was a controlled demolition. -nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. And Now the Citizens are asked for Austerity its Revolting |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. True words |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. +1 |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. +1 |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. GOOD POINT |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. + a Holdup |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. "The Looting of America" ... Catherine Austen Fitts .... |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #60 |
93. this is very good |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
74. Was? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. They are terrified that this would be exposed |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. Umm... hasn't the Treasury made money on the bailout? |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Source? Aren't we talking about TARP? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. The loss from TARP is still in the tens of billions. n/t |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You've got to be kidding: "The Fed took a hit, but that was at its own insistence." |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. We're talking about TARP |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. No, you're the one trying to limit the discussion to TARP, which makes no sense. |
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PhillySane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. They still used the money |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. $4.72 trillion disbursed, $13.86 trillion max at risk, $1.93 trillion oustanding |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. The banks made the money to pay off the loans |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think you're mixing up two different things. The Fed is not the Treasury. |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. They still owe > $320 Billion on TARP more than half |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
82. Don't derivatives |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Derivatives are a threat and must be restricted |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Thank you.......nt |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Where exactly do you think money comes from? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. What they were doing was trying to cover up a failed system |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
69. The banks got the money for next to no business, loaned a good part of it |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
70. No. And the worst is yet to come. |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Kick |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. But according to our media it's the unions and 'entitlement' programs |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. That one sentence of yours tells us all why we NEED Wikileaks |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. and we _really_need the Bradley Manning's of the world! |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. I am quite guilty of overlooking |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
83. I agree with you! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. Kicked and recommended. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
25. so? People on the inside knew there was a problem |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
66. Not if its predatory nature is allowed to continue to run amok. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. Of course they saw this coming.... |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
27. . |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
28. oh I believe you! |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. well there had to be plan-it did not come out of thin air |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. I Can't Say what I'm Thinking |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Many of us are thinking the same thing. n/t |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. Hey now, the past is the past. |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. "Obama was against the bailout and should be reelected for saving the country with it!" nt |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Many people knew the crash was imminent. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. EVERYONE who helped overturn NEW DEAL regulations on capitalism.... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
47. Outrageous!!!! |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
48. Sounds like collusion, theft and racketeering? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. KnR!!! |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. Thanks |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. Holy shit! People were considering bailouts the week Bear Stearns collapsed? |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
53. I bet Bush and Cheney were open they could delay the drama until |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. 4 months? Only 4 months? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. Wow! This incriminates everyone involved in this in the governments of the UK |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. I'm reminded of Rep. Marcy Kaptur in "Capitalism: A Love Story" |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R n/t |
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dem mba (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
64. Lehman's collapse began in 2007. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
84. Yeah, Bear was pretty well toast by March 2008 but this is interesting. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
67. kick it |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
68. where's that photo of Congressional leaders and Paulson? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
71. So this must be the "bank bazooka" they talked about releasing. Wow! If nothing |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. NOTHING WILL BE DONE. It is not even a topic of conversation. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:01 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Today, for a number of reasons, I reached my tipping point. I'm done caring, |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #75 |
94. Of course something will be done... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
72. There will be no big criminal proceeding from this, Obama has made it clear |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
77. #202 - you rock! This is THE issue |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
79. Hmm remember the M3 index anyone?? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
80. K&R n/t |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
85. I KNEW IT! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
86. WOW |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
87. We knew they were looting - but it's nice to have confirmation. nt |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
99. .. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
100. kick |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. me too |
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