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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 12:56 PM Original message |
TROUBLE: Protesters Won't Be Able to Bring Sleeping Bags Back Into Park After Cleanup |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. People keep typing that in all caps - but do you really think Bloomberg gives a flying fuck? |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. F 1% BLOOMBERG! |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. worse: |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. the only thing left to do is march, then |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Nope. The only thing left to do is sit down |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. To paraphrase a line from "Casablanca," |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. :high five: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Yep. Don't let them derail. Sit down. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Mario Savio's words have been ringing in my head since this has begun |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Bloomberg just turned back the clock 40 plus years.. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. Geaux Saints :) |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yep. |
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Jon Ace (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. Good ol' fashioned 1% plan: |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. Bloomberg to OWS: "Out you dirty HIPPIES!!!" |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. It is the owners of the land who are making these rules, not Bloomberg |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. The way it works in this country (or is supposed to work) is that |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Then you we have absolutely nothing to worry about, right? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Of course not. But, as Andrew Jackson pointed out many, many |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The police will simply arrest those who refuse to leave |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Ah, so much is hidden in your adverb 'simply'. Again, I put the |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Their call, but they lack any legal standing to stay |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. Which country are you in? Certainly not the USA |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. And Bloomberg's girlfriend is a board member of the owner of the property n/t |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. Same thing is happening here in Denver. |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Dumb. |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. And to demonstrate nationwide that the police are nothing but their lapdogs. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Myself and another poster had this called yesterday |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. When you hold a protest on privately owned land, the owners of the land get to set the rules |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Last time I checked, possession was 9/10 of the law. So exactly |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. A valid property deed trumps 'possession' |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I'm sure the NYPD is 'capable' of clearing out the park (although |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. They don't have to arrest everyone at the same time |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Again, your word choice is more than a bit troubling. So I guess |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Do they have a legal right to be there? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Of course. Are you saying they do not have a legal right to be |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Our protestors do not have a legal right to be there. Occupying it is civil disobediance |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. Is it publicly owned or privately owned property? |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
87. 'Mock and undermine'-----Patrick Howley of American Spectator |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. As usual, property rights "trump" human rights. |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. He doesn't like OWS |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Tough. It's happening whether he likes it or not. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. You sound pretty happy about that. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. No, I am just stating the facts. That tends to upset people who try to ignore reality |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Facts they may be. No one's disputing the obligation of the police |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. I love that story |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. But it doesn't suspend the Constitution, sorry. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. What consitutional issues are there with private property owners restricting access? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I read about a week ago, that there was an agreement |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Interesting NYT discussion of the agreement |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Thanks. Think Progress put up a link to the last lawyers' letter |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Fixed. Here is the pdf: |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. What law school did you go to when they taught this "9/10s" stuff? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. You literalists will friggin' drive me crazy. The " '9/10s' stuff" (to quote you) |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Total Nonsense |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. Please see post #79 - n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Some of my sensitivities on this are based on problems I have had with trespassers |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. So if you and 8 friends walk into my house.... it becomes yours? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
83. "Last time" you "checked," huh? Gosh, you've been around a while! Since 1938, at least: |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bloomberg and Kelly are playing 'Good Cop, Bad Cop." |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. the either move the protest to in front of the charging bull |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hey mayor! Why don't you use all those police to arrest the bankers who fucked over so many? |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. this may stop people from sleeping there but the marches will continue |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
19. This could eventually get to a stand-off point. REMAIN NON-VIOLENT! |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. I knew it was a scam |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. Camp in Central Park. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Bloomberg doesn't even know the trouble he's asking for. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
86. Too far away and the city has curfews and rules |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. Looks like the 1% has had enough... |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Koch's must've gotten the conference call in |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
29. From the link: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. They can forbid away but they cannot enforce so they will lose. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. What will block enforcement? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Numbers could do it. About the only way the NYPD or anyone else |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Chase Manhattan Plaza, at Pine and Williams, is another all-masonry urban hardscape |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. This was inevitable. |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. I hope the protestors dont give up because of this |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. Rich mayor tells protesters: "Have a Koch and a smile." |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. He'll probably give out coupons for Koch products |
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marked50 (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Sounds like Wisconsin |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
65. I thought it was a PRIVATE park? Does the mayor have jurisdiction? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. Call Mayor Bloomberg at 212-NEW-YORK ( 212-639-9675 ) - |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
68. Gosh, guess everyone will just have to sleep in the streets then. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I like your thinking. |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. I hope OWS stays in the park and doesn't leave. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
85. It's called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE for a reason |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
88. There was an article about a girl who designed a coat that was also a sleeping bag. |
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