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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:28 PM
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Cherry Hill NJ residents fight church-based charter which will cost public schools $1.9 mil a year.
This charter school is the creation of two pastors of the Solid Rock Worship Center "on the Camden Diocese’s former Holy Rosary Parish site." Charter schools get public money while having more freedom to teach as they choose. Cherry Hill schools will lose close to 2 million dollars a year.

Giving public taxpayer money to religion-based charter schools....that is a very questionable practice.


“Even in the days of Tent City, it was about education reform,” pastor Amir Khan said. “That’s why we’re starting with kindergarten. If we catch children at this age, we’re not going to have them ending up in Tent Cities, and in jail.” (Courier-Post file)

Charter school to open in Cherry Hill

The state Department of Education on Friday announced the selection of four more charter schools scheduled to open next September, including two in South Jersey under the leadership of people who’ve made news before.

Regis Academy Charter School, a regional school that will be located in Cherry Hill but open to students from Cherry Hill, Lawnside, Somerdale and Voorhees, is the creation of Amir Khan and Calvin Brown, pastors at Solid Rock Worship Center on the Camden Diocese’s former Holy Rosary Parish site.


Although Cherry Hill did not want the school, the school leaders appealed to the state. Cherry Hill is appealing to the state as well. This is similar to what is happening in Florida....the districts can turn down a charter, but the state can override their complaint. Takes away local control of schools.

Cherry Hill is battling a proposed charter school

Cherry Hill, one of the largest districts in the state, is appealing to the state Board of Education the approval this month of the Regis Academy Charter School, saying the loss in state funding to public schools would force teacher layoffs and program cuts.

"What is the need?" asked Cherry Hill Superintendent Maureen Reusche. "I believe the children in this district get a quality education. It was just in the last month the governor himself referenced Cherry Hill as a district that is achieving."

..."The Rev. Amir Khan, pastor of Solid Rock, who sits on a committee of African American pastors he said meets frequently with Christie on the issue of charter schools, said his aim was to provide an alternative for parents dissatisfied with the traditional public school model.

"They don't mind you having a school in Trenton, Camden, Jersey City, but God forbid you go into the suburbs," he said. "The moment we were approved, the phone started ringing like crazy, and it was a lot of people from Cherry Hill."


Officials in one of southern New Jersey's best regarded public school districts are upset. They feel that they will soon have to compete and share money with a new charter school. Since charters originally claimed they wanted to provide more support for inner city schools, it does seem strange to see a mission change. It's a move into high performing schools, and it is not going over so well.

Cherry Hill school officials unhappy about competing with planned charter school

The bill for Cherry Hill is expected to be $1.9 million a year. Dan Keashen, a spokesman for Mayor Bernie Platt told The Courier-Post that his boss is outraged over the charter.

"The mayor believes the current school system is operating at a very high level," Keashen said. "Why does there need to be an alternative?"


.."The debate over the schools has spilled into the state Legislature, where the Senate Education Committee this week is considering a bill that would give local communities say over whether charter schools could open there.

Regis Academy is headed by Amir Khan, a businessman, pastor and philanthropist best known for attempting to rescue more than 50 homeless people who were living in a city of tents in Camden in 2010. He wants to put the school on the grounds of his Solid Rock Baptist Church, which he is leasing from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Camden. But he says the church and school would be separate.


This is not just happening in Cherry Hill. It is happening in NY where Eva Moskowitz is expanding into the upper West Side with a charter school called..you guessed it...Upper West Success Academy.

From the New York Times:

On Upper West Side, Hurdles for Charter School

Opposition to the charter school, named Upper West Success Academy, has been as structured and relentless as the school’s own marketing campaign, and it has already chased the school out of two proposed locations, on 105th and 109th Streets. The local community education council, which represents District 3 public school parents, has mobilized council members and state senators in fighting the charter school, which it contends will siphon middle- and upper-middle-class families from schools that desperately need them for stability.

Members of the teachers’ union and New York Communities for Change, which replaced the state’s chapter of the embattled organization Acorn, are often present at rallies and copied on e-mails debating the next steps in the battle. Even the local community board, which has no official say in the process, has chimed in. On Jan. 4, it voted 40 to 0 against the city’s most recent plan, to house the charter school at the former Louis D. Brandeis High School on West 84th Street.

“In Harlem, there was some need and desire and interest in charter schools,” Noah E. Gotbaum, president of the community education council, said in an interview. “We don’t need more options here. We have options. We have great schools.”


That last statement indicates a dual standard of mindset. Resources were taken away from inner-city public schools, and parents often had no way to fight when their schools were co-located or closed.

Sounds like the charter movement has changed its mission from one of helping inner city schools to forcing themselves into almost every area.


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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:32 PM
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1. My brother lives there
They have excellent schools. It's one of the reasons he chose it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:37 PM
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2. Hubby says it's a great area with excellent schools.
He's a NJ native but has been in FL for many years now.

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:38 PM
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3. The charter movement is not at all monothilic, despite your assumption that it is
There are good charters, bad charters, specialty charters, etc. Some have an ideological or cultural foci on top of that. Bundling all charters into one group just adds to the noise and the falsehoods.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:40 PM
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4. That has nothing to do with what I posted. You totally misread the OP
Which I find is a frequent happening.

Read it again, forget I am the one who posted it. A charter is being forced on a district that does not want it.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:51 PM
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5. It is indeed the case that a district may well get a charter it does not want
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 09:52 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
but I am yet to see a school district that wanted any charter school.

My point is that in your prose, you lumped all charters together which is wrong.

Since charters originally claimed they wanted to provide more support for inner city schools, it does seem strange to see a mission change. It's a move into high performing schools, and it is not going over so well.

Sounds like the charter movement has changed its mission from one of helping inner city schools to forcing themselves into almost every area.


The truth is that no one speaks for charter schools collectively or as a movement, so your statements about "originally claimed" and "mission change" are false and do not add anything positive to the discussion.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:55 PM
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8. You are missing so much of what I said because you are doing the opposite..
of what you say I am doing. You are defending charters being given taxpayer money when the district doesn't want them and doesn't need them.

It is not a matter of good or bad charters...I did not even mention good or bad. It is a matter of the hijacking of public education. It is being done by a Democratic administration.

That breaks my heart.

So launch all your critiques on me, go for it.

It is the forced privatization of education.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:04 PM
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12. What you are doing is over generalizing a detailed and nuanced topic
That is what I am attacking here. I have not defended charters here, this particular one, or in general.

My experience with charters is that it is a diverse enough that when people start lumping them all together they either have an agenda or don't understand critical details.

I also feel for what is happening to public education. I see the results daily.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:20 PM
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15. They should be lumped together and regulated.
Just like public schools have to obey rules. They get public money, and they have played word games about what they are really doing.

The idea of specialized schools could have been a very good one....but the billionaire boys club took the idea over and perverted it from its original intent.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:15 AM
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27. hmm...
Yet another candidate for my ignore list... (I sincerely HOPE he doesn't teach English...)
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EdMaven Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:15 AM
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26. Your comments are completely off-topic & irrelevant to her post.
The *community* doesn't want the damn charter school. They're happy with the schools they have, which are high-performing. What don't you understand about that?

Additionally, what don't you understand about 'separation of church & state'?
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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:28 PM
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17. I think the point of the OP is that Cherry Hill does not need or want a charter school.
And by the way, "Professor," the word 'foci' is not singular. And you misspelled 'monolithic.'
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:49 AM
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23. And...
doesn't appear to be all that 'progressive' either...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:48 AM
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32. That particular tool has never once advanced any progressive position in any post on this board.
There's a word for that.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:59 PM
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36. Yes,
and my ignore list just increased by one...
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:56 AM
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25. Perhaps,
if you explain what you mean by monothilic?

(Your sig line is spot on...)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:52 PM
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6. And as usual
the recs disappear quickly. Down to zero.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:55 PM
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9. Well, I got it back up to one, at least. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:57 PM
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10. Not that it matters anymore, but it won't stay.
What bothers me is the reasoning behind it.....keeping attention from school reforms that are harming public education.

That really bothers me. Thanks, though. :hi:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:33 PM
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19. It's in positive territory now
and I agree with post 7. :hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:52 AM
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22. ....
Big thanks for that. :hi:
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:52 AM
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24. Yeah...
As if all that unreccing is going to magically negate the fascist usurpation of our system of public education! Are these the same pathetic sock puppets who accuse us of wanting our own ponies with rainbows shooting out their butts?!

(+14, now...)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:53 PM
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7. If a damn church wants a school then do it without tax money!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:57 PM
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11. Amen to that.
They should not get public money.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:13 PM
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13. New Jersey's shadow governor
George "Boss" Norcross operates out if Cherry Hill, and he has interests in charter schools. That's why Christie redirected education funding from public to charter schools.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:16 AM
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30. Interesting. Had not heard that name before.
Thanks for the post.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:42 AM
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31. And his Capo di Capo
Steve Adubato Sr., the State's chief charter school merchant. They were responsible for Governor Christie. Traditionally they support Democrats, but Corzine had his own money and didn't need them. In the weeks leading up to the election there was no get out the vote effort for Corzine on local levels.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:39 AM
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34. Writing those names for future reference.
Thanks for the behind the scenes info.

:hi:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:15 PM
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14. Cherry Hill has an excellent school system.
At this point, this case clearly demonstrates that the education "reform" movement is but a means to destroy public education.
In addition, under NO circumstances so I support the usage of public tax dollars going towards religious institutions.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:33 PM
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18. I agree with you. It does clearly show the true motive behind many reforms.
They just keep changing their reasons for being.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:27 PM
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16. Thank you madfloridian for keeping all of us up to date on this matter.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:43 PM
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20. sorry religion pimper, but jails are full of mostly xtians and believers who attended churches nt
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:48 PM
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21. K&R'd.
I suppose it would also be a mistake to say lump together the oligarchs who took over 95% of traditional media worldwide . . . but I'd rather not wait 'til they control 95% of education to object to the takeover.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 07:57 AM
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28. K & R
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:08 AM
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29. k&r
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 10:05 AM
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33. No charter school should receive government money. The fact of the matter is, charter schools do
not do any better at educating students than public schools do.

If we were really serious about education reform, then we would follow Finland's model.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:56 PM
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35. Agree with that.
:hi:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:14 PM
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37. +1
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