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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:16 PM Original message |
Pot Smoking May More Than Double Crash Risk |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep, definitely a "no shit" moment. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. unnhhReck |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Saw a post to the contrary here few days ago. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. A post that showed a legitimate study on the matter? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:30 PM Original message |
Yes |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. No. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
30. No. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:54 PM Original message |
mighty broad statement....depends on dosage, as in all drugs. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
123. Hardly. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #123 |
257. you believe whatever you wish in your fantasy world. i offered you a link with proof. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
211. +1 Thanks! /nt |
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BadDog40 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
127. Here are 2 studies that suggests the risks are small |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #127 |
138. Thanks. The 'steady lateral position' sounds familiar. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #127 |
142. You have to go pretty far back then, to some small studies. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Really? |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. This "study" is a load of crap! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I followed the link, and there is plenty to back it up. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. What about this statement from the article: |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I love it when folks try to use a single line, as it means everything. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Driving while impaired is already illegal. Doesn't matter what you're fucked up on |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That's great. |
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FrodosPet (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
95. When you are so effin baked you can't even remember |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
115. Smoking pot has no negative effect on driving. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. It's funny that research appears to show otherwise. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
238. i don't know about that. in general yes, you'll most likey be more careful and not speed. however, |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Smoking affects people differently. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I know plenty of people who drink who say the same thing. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Try what again? I said I don't drive while stoned. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I'm glad you don't. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Pot isn't heroin. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Deleted sub-thread |
HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
110. Who said "Pot is heroin?" |
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BadDog40 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #110 |
129. You're acting like it is |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #129 |
143. Goodness. |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes, just a reminder: DON'T smoke pot then drive. Also, don't use a heat gun as a blow dryer. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
112. Yup. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
237. What about using rubbing alcohol instead of vodka? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. JFC... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. That's right, bang your head when reality hits. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. No, I Bang My Head When Teh Stupid Succeed |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. That might make sense if you cared about "Teh Stupid." |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. I call bullshit! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. So this expert says that the preponderance of evidence agrees with this study. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. rec but you've been neg-recced to zero. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Yeah, it's almost as if I posted something that says vaccines prevent disease. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. oh oh... now you've done it! |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. Let me be honest. I've smoked MJ and drove a car. I became a better driver. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Post to that effect here a few days ago. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. "Dude! I can drink a fifth of Jim Beam, and boy can I drive a straight line afterward!" |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Means you're probably an alcoholic. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Perhaps. Certainly, it means anyone claiming that is an idiot. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Then please don't drive at all. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. How do you know? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. I dunno about this. I feel more "impaired" after a single beer than I do after |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That may be true, but that's not the point of the study. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. FWIW, every last person I know who wants it legalized (and that's no small number) |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I stated that in the OP. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
207. If you don't want OTHER people's opinion or perspective, you perhaps |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #207 |
214. Is that your response whenever you push something completely baseless... |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Will eating a bag of Doritos bring the risk back down to normal? |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. +100 |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. :) |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. I am pro-legalization and anti-impaired driving, too. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yup. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. On the flip side, to be fair, this "what about stoned drivers" is clearly a talking point for |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Indeed. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Like I said, impaired driving is already against the law. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. There should not be insurmountable challenges to enforcement. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. They have to do with the topic because it means we agree that the issue is already settled. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Well, we do need to know what risks stoned providers provide. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #66 |
125. Because, like I said, it has come up as a big anti-legalization talking point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #125 |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #125 |
136. True. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
223. I agree. Just because the drug war is bullshit and marijuana should be legal |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. Oh please.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
46. Bottom line: Inconclusive... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Only if one chooses to go down the road of science is just "theory." |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. It would take blind faith to believe |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Whose evidence? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Seriously? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
97. Other studies point the other way. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. That's not unusual for science. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
48. these studies reappear every so often |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Single studies don't negate much. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Can you find some studies analyzing driving habits of med marijuana users? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Can you offer any other red herrings? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #74 |
130. You're high! |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
169. Not high, just incredibly ignorant. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. Yeah, that must be it. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Considering that your "scientific knowledge" and "debate skills" consist entirely of smilies. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. Uh huh. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #182 |
190. You've spent plenty of time responding with snark and smileys. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. Don't drive high (on anything) and you'll be fine. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. +1 |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. +1 |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
159. Yep no accidents happen if your straight. Right. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #159 |
167. And... |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. Do you shave and text with your eyes closed? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #171 |
196. Do you? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #196 |
233. Conversation doesn't work that way. You need to answer first. |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
60. From the report: |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Thank you. n/t |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. ur welcome |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. It also doubles Ding Dong consumption |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
67. OP as Drug Warrior propaganda? "this study...was not designed to capture and effect." |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The only propaganda being offered... |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. As I asked before.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. In other words.... |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. THERE IS NO FUCKING EVIDENCE. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. ROTFLMAO! |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Oh, isn't that cute? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. I get it. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
170. In other words, you haven't provided anything even approaching evidence. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #170 |
184. In other words, evidence does not matter to you. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #184 |
188. Says the ignoramus who constantly screams "evidence!" while not providing a shred of it. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #188 |
198. Have you written USA Today to tell them that this story is about a fictional study? |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #198 |
208. It's a few people who are making assertions with nothing to back up their assertions. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. Say what? |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. Exactly. NT |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Oh, that is rich. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. So...the concepts of "cause and effect" aren't familiar to you? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. I'm quite familiar. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. You're asserting cause and effect from studies that did not capture cause and effect. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. You don't even seem to have the basic scientific literacy to understand how "studies" work. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Says someone who has shown ZERO scientific literacy, thus fan. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
235. What science? Please, cite the studies that this 'study' references. |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Uh oh... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Well, when that's shown, why shouldn't it be pointed out? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Your argument is similar to the Queen of Hearts: First the Verdict, THEN the trial, eh? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Only if you're ignoring, well, almost everything. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I don't do "Faith Based" reasoning. Link to a scientific study, or it didn't happen. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. The article links to one, which links to several. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Right. But the scientists aren't asserting what you Drug Warriors are. That's the problem. nt |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. "Drug Warriors." |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Right. DU is the home away from home for Drug Warriors and other fascists. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. In other words, your only response to science is a personal attack. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Nonsense. I'm still waiting for you to digest and respond to the "cause and effect" issue. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. You don't even know what that means. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. You are very lazy, for a provocateur. Your schtick isn't even interesting. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. That's funny. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
225. The only link the article goes to the website of the Governors Highway Safety Association |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. It's only been |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Says the guy who lives in fantasy land. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. I don't even smoke pot, and I wish |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. So do the rest of us. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
100. I'm 100% serious |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. So am I. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #100 |
120. Is it frustrating to throw a reasoned response down a black hole? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Deleted message |
Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #121 |
137. That's rich, coming from you. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:29 PM Original message |
No, I've noted what the science shows. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
239. You know |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #120 |
209. I wasn't interested in "rule-breaking" etc. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
88. Notice the OP isn't engaging in any reasoned discussion? Unsubtle Flame bait. nt |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Prove it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. But yet declares himself the winner |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. This is not about winning. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. Big pharma thanks you for your contribution. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. YOU WIN POINTLESS RED HERRING POST OF THE NIGHT! |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
128. Enjoy. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #128 |
215. ... |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
122. Not surprising. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. No, it's not exactly surprising. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #124 |
175. I figured someone of your scientific "knowledge" would consider that to be "results". |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. I see that you have a little bit of knowledge. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. Please demonstrate your knowledge and credentials. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #183 |
203. No one has bothered to enter into a debate here. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. Your debate style is exactly this: |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #206 |
210. Get a mirror. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. And once again you're only capable of responding with smilies. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. And you've offered more? |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. Ahhh, so you admit that you've provided nothing. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
226. i bet they drank lots of water and breathed plenty of oxygen as well |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
131. Things that I've done while driving stoned... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #131 |
146. Anecdotes are meaningless. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #146 |
243. See post #285. I posted it in the wrong place. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #131 |
242. Maybe I should have added the sarcasm smiley? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
132. dupe |
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BadDog40 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
133. I wish the OP would contribute something meaningful |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. You've yet to offer anything useful. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
134. And it may not. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #134 |
147. But the evidence indicates that it probably does. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #147 |
162. ...unless it doesn't. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Deleted message |
Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
135. Back in my younger (read: stupider) days we all drove around as |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
139. Tax it and Legalize it stop the weed prohibition. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. +1 |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
140. LOL |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
141. Oops... Sacred Cow time. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. +1 |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #141 |
181. +2 nt |
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DreamSmoker (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
149. This is Bullspin again... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. It's unfortunate that NORML chooses to act like an anti-vax organization when it comes to this. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. More of that supposedly biased view of NORML for ya |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. Yup. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. More from that same page, care to read it? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Again, small, self-selected studies are meaningless. |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. 'Aware of their impairment'? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
151. I used to drive stoned regularly when I was young and stupid. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
152. Oh, really? I think this new data is being supported more and more |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #152 |
160. 'a negative impact on decision time and trajectory' |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
156. I have to drink and smoke pot to tolerate most of you inept drivers |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. Yeah? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. You're that crazy driver I see weaving all over the road! |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #164 |
200. That was a joke. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
163. I haven't smoked in years, but my experience I drove the speed limit |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. So you think an anecdote outweighs actual research? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #166 |
173. I'm a professional driver. I drive approx. 600 miles everyday. Don't |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. No, they're not the same. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. Sitting high above the ground and I see people doing much worse things. I have |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #185 |
199. So you know what everyone has ingested before driving, because you're above the ground? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #199 |
256. No, but I know when someone is getting a BJ |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #176 |
191. I'm sure if MJ were legalized it would be illegal to drive while under |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #191 |
201. Well, I have a few friends who believe that driving while stoned is fine and dandy. |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #201 |
230. No one should drive under the influence of anything period. |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #173 |
186. Rational statements are not readily absorbed by anti marijuana |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #186 |
197. Where are these anti-marijuana advocates? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #197 |
231. Just the fact you ask where they are like there are none |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Or people who text and shave while driving |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
168. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T! I know for a fact, that report is total |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. What an intelligent to response to information that goes against your preconceived notions. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #177 |
193. Thank you. They aren't "preconceived notions." It's from EXPERIENCE. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. The plural of anecdote is not evidence. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #177 |
229. reading through your posts here, you wouldn't know an intelligent response.. |
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negativenihil (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
187. imo |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #187 |
192. Of course. That potent the ops motive here. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #187 |
204. Yup. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
189. Thats total Bullshit with a capital B |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #189 |
202. No one was talking about you. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #189 |
246. there's a lot of things people can do, and do well stoned. but to say it doesn't affect people at |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
194. Since some folks think this is all made up, here's a short list of studies... |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
205. Has anyone done a full double-blind study? |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #205 |
222. There is only one reason people smoke pot. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #222 |
227. So everything that alters your mind negatively effects driving ability? |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. No, of course not. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. And caffeine can also positively affect one's driving ability. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #222 |
245. Alcohol alters your mind too. And alcohol DUIs kill thousands each year. Yet it's legal... |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #205 |
250. Double-blind with placebo? Here you go..... |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #250 |
251. That's what I was looking for! n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #250 |
258. Thanks for this. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
219. Goodbye. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. BYE! |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #219 |
234. Hey, you started it. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #219 |
241. Thank you for showing your true intentions with this post. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #241 |
253. Has there ever been a poll? |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
224. This study does fly in the face of other prior studies showing the exact opposite. Just sayin' nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
236. No, don't smoke and drive |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
240. It is a narcotic, so no shit. |
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SomethingFishy (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
244. yeah and? |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
247. Kick |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #247 |
254. You just had to kick this thread to the top again, |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
248. Marijuana is a magical drug. It has 100% POSITIVE effects, 0 negative. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #248 |
249. Yes, it's like aspirin , only better. It does everything and takes the stains out of carpets too! |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #249 |
252. New Shimmer is a floor wax! |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #252 |
255. In the new "Bong" applicator! |
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261. I should have read first |
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259. I can't believe this thread is still here. |
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260. There are NO negative consequences to smoking marijuana, |
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