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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:22 AM
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The right wing is developing a nasty.
And this is meta for two countries in the continent.

You can live well on 6,000 pesos a month. It's less than 600 USD. But you too can have a house, send kids to school and have a car...

Now live on nine dollars / hour. Think of the message. People are being told by the wealthy tat they are not frugal enough. They are trying to divert from the real core problems.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:34 AM
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1. Well, isn't that special!
My recurring fantasy is rounding ALL of these jokers up, take EVERYTHING away from them except for: a used car; an overpriced/dilapidated apartment; and a fridge, stove, and TV. Then hand them fifty bucks to get started and the address to the nearest unemployment agency.

Then again, maybe we can wave some magic wand and make them *poof*, disappear, and RECLAIM THE DAMNED PLANET.

Just one woman's opinion.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:36 AM
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2. Yup, it is special
What is scary is the right wing in Mexico, which is pretty hard core, are somewhat moderate when compared to our candidates. (Well except for Baja...now those boys are extreme as it gets)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:36 AM
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3. I think our meme shouldbe simple
Thirty years of trickle down and the one percent have sucked it all up.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:37 AM
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4. Yup
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:51 AM
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6. I like it! OWS can get that one going!
*THIRTY YEARS--TRICKLE DOWN, ONE PERCENT--HOSED IT UP*
Short, sweet, says it all. Thanks! Great bumpersticker/T-shirt material. Mind if I use it?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:48 AM
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5. That's what I keep trying to explain to people about third world countries
That 6000 pesos a month translates into having enough to keep body and soul together in Mexico, yet it would barely buy calories and gas for a jalopy here in the US because of the exchange rate. It wouldn't buy a place to live, clothing, or the means to see a doctor if you got sick. So if you could work naked and the car never broke down and you slept in that car between shifts, you could maybe compete head to head with a Mexican worker. If you didn't get sick.

It works the other way, too. People in Mexico see that nine bucks an hour and translate it into pesos and WOW! This is the golden land, somewhere they can easily quadruple their income without even trying. Then they get here and see what the costs are and they're really stuck.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:01 AM
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7. Yeah but 6000 is not enough
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 11:01 AM by nadinbrzezinski
For even calories, let alone a private school, or healthcare. It is bellow the poverty line.

It is the equivalent of you too can live well on nine bucks an hour.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:10 AM
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9. However, it's a roof (if you're not too particular)
and enough calories (if you're not too particular and have a garden).

Translated into six hundred bucks a month here, it means something completely different.

No, neither group lives well on the poverty level wage here or there. However, if they competed head to head the way the plutocracy wants us to, the six hundred dollars a month here would buy far less than the six thousand pesos in Mexico does.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:12 AM
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10. Not quite, having spent three weeks down there
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 11:13 AM by nadinbrzezinski
Not quite. It's not a roof

Oh and in fact it was used as proof of how out of touch elites are...or at least one presidential candidate.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:02 AM
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8. Self delete
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 11:02 AM by nadinbrzezinski
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:44 AM
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11. They've heard that poor people have REFRIGERATORS! Sickening attempt to redraw the lines.

It's not greed to pay a CEO $100 million a year. Not greed to insist a billion-dollar-a-year oil company needs tax subsidies. Not greed for Goldman Sachs to push bad investments they were betting against, or to insure billions in their own bad bets, then insist U.S. taxpayers prop up their insurance company so they could colled 100 cents per dollar on their phoney baloney schemes.

But god forbid a poor family somewhere be seen wearing overly sport shoes or carrying a cell phone not made of wood pulp. Now refrigeration is apparently decadence.

Apparently what should be self-satirizing rationalizations of greed do not register with some people.

Apparently they need to be encouraged to stop and think.

Apparently they need to hear directly from people that this bullshit will stop.
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