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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:41 PM
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Petraeus’s CIA Fuels Iran Murder Plot


Ray McGovern spells things out:



Petraeus’s CIA Fuels Iran Murder Plot

Exclusive: The U.S. media and public are being riled up again with a new set of allegations against Iran, this time for a bizarre assassination plot aimed at the Saudi ambassador in Washington. But former CIA analyst Ray McGovern wonders if this is propaganda from David Petraeus’s CIA.


By Ray McGovern
ConsortiumNews.com
October 13, 2011

Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, in his accustomed role as unofficial surrogate CIA spokesman, has thrown light on how the CIA under its new director, David Petraeus, helped craft the screenplay for this week’s White House spy feature: the Iranian-American-used-car-salesman-Mexican-drug-cartel plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the U.S.

In Thursday’s column, Ignatius notes that, initially, White House and Justice Department officials found the story “implausible.” It was. But the Petraeus team soon leapt to the rescue, reflecting the four-star-general-turned-intelligence-chief’s deep-seated animus toward Iran.

Before Ignatius’s article, I had seen no one allude to the fact that much about this crime-stopper tale had come from the CIA. In public, the FBI had taken the lead role, presumably because the key informant inside a Mexican drug cartel worked for U.S. law enforcement via the Drug Enforcement Administration.

However, according to Ignatius, “One big reason (top U.S. officials became convinced the plot was real) is that CIA and other intelligence agencies gathered information corroborating the informant’s juicy allegations and showing that the plot had support from the top leadership of the elite Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, the covert action arm of the Iranian government.”

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http://consortiumnews.com/2011/10/13/petraeuss-cia-fuels-iran-murder-plot/



I don't see what the problem is. Even if another pre-emptive war proves to be a disaster for the United States and Iran, it's a win for Wall Street and the Plutonomy. And that's what it's all about, right?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:54 PM
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1. Read Sen Feinstein saying "We're on a collision course w Iran" earlier:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5028734

but I'm sure she has no vested interest(from Project Censored):

-snip

From 1997 through the end of 2005, Feinstein’s husband Richard C. Blum was a majority shareholder in both URS Corp. and Perini Corp. She lobbied Pentagon officials in public hearings to support defense projects that she favored, some of which already were, or subsequently became, URS or Perini contracts. From 2001 to 2005, URS earned $792 million from military construction and environmental cleanup projects approved by MILCON; Perini earned $759 million from such projects.

In 2000, Perini earned a mere $7 million from federal contracts. After 9/11, Perini was transformed into a major defense contractor. In 2004, the company earned $444 million for military construction work in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as for improving airfields for the US Air Force in Europe and building base infrastructures for the US Navy around the globe. In a remarkable financial recovery, Perini shot from near penury in 1997 to logging gross revenues of $1.7 billion in 2005.

It is estimated that Perini now holds at least $2.5 billion worth of contracts tied to the worldwide expansion of the US military. Its largest Department of Defense contracts are “indefinite delivery-indefinite quantity” or “bundled” contracts carrying guaranteed profit margins. As of May 2006, Perini held a series of bundled contracts awarded by the Army Corps of Engineers for work in the Middle East worth $1.725 billion. Perini has also been awarded an open-ended contract by the US Air Force for military construction and cleaning the environment at closed military bases.

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http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/23-feinsteins-conflict-of-interest-in-iraq/

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:14 PM
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4. Gee. That ''indefinite delivery-indefinite quantity'' sounds like a big cash cow for somebody.
Thank you for the heads-up, mod mom: Preemptive war represents a conflict-of-interest.

Joshua Frank pegged Mr. Blum:

The Democrats' Daddy Warbucks

Business with the Carlyle Group is particularly disheartening. Then there's the other company...

CPI says Mr. Blum owns three-fourths of Perini.

It's gotta be a case study at Harvard Business School, going from penury to Happy Days Are Here Again. Textbook case.



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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:02 PM
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2. Thanks Octafish. The truth trickles out, though MSM has their targets set.
Here's another thread showing how the DEA source may have been just a little too eager. Smells too similar to Curveball, if you ask me.

Alleged Iran Assassination Plot Court Documents Suggest a Set Up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x625698
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:21 PM
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5. Anytime, robertpaulsen. I owe ya...
Going from Lars77's video and related postings, the FBI is doing the scut work for somebody.

The Informants

The FBI has built a massive network of spies to prevent another domestic attack. But are they busting terrorist plots—or leading them?

—By Trevor Aaronson
Mother Jones

EXCERPT...

Over the past year, Mother Jones and the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California-Berkeley have examined prosecutions of 508 defendants in terrorism-related cases, as defined by the Department of Justice. Our investigation found:
    ■Nearly half the prosecutions involved the use of informants, many of them incentivized by money (operatives can be paid as much as $100,000 per assignment) or the need to work off criminal or immigration violations. (For more on the details of those 508 cases, see our charts page and searchable database.)
    ■Sting operations resulted in prosecutions against 158 defendants. Of that total, 49 defendants participated in plots led by an agent provocateur—an FBI operative instigating terrorist action.
    ■With three exceptions, all of the high-profile domestic terror plots of the last decade were actually FBI stings. (The exceptions are Najibullah Zazi, who came close to bombing the New York City subway system in September 2009; Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, an Egyptian who opened fire on the El-Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles airport; and failed Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad.)
    ■In many sting cases, key encounters between the informant and the target were not recorded—making it hard for defendants claiming entrapment to prove their case.
    ■Terrorism-related charges are so difficult to beat in court, even when the evidence is thin, that defendants often don't risk a trial.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:10 PM
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3. Isn't it swell how we can't trust our government?
The relentless continuation of so many ruinous Republican policies ensures that these policies will remain in place for some Republican successor somewhere down the line. And, as bad as seeing this bullshit is out of an ostensibly Democratic administration, it will be exponentially worse coming out of the next Republican administration, whenever that is.

But by all means, let us not spend any time lookin' backwards to the past and seeing if we can rectify some of the past mistakes, because some of the architects of those mistakes might be inconvenienced (criminal prosecutions have their own special brand of ruining an otherwise good day for a war criminal). Instead, let's concentrate on lookin' forward to the future! where we don't have to worry our pretty little heads over past crimes against humanity. Because that would just politicize past practices. Or something.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:26 PM
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6. You put it into words, exactly...
The guy was asked about makin' war on Iran.



"Money Trumps Peace." - George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007

It's like living in a dream.

Transcript excerpt.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 02:19 PM
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7. Yes Sir! K&R + a hyperlink to a related, active GD thread
Hmmm, Iran, Central American drug cartels, Saudis, October...it reminds me of some hidden histories (started 10-12-11)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2104315

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 03:09 PM
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9. Key Romney Advisers Advocate War With Iran
It's like an old Star Trek episode, wherein We the People are the expendable extras running around in the red shirts.



Key Romney Advisers Advocate War With Iran

By Ben Armbruster on Oct 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm

Yesterday, GOP presidential front runner Mitt Romney announced his campaign’s foreign policy team. While ThinkProgress pointed out that many of Romney’s advisers helped push the United States into war with Iraq, it might also be interesting to know what the former Massachusetts governor will be hearing from his top aides regarding Iran. Prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan, who is among Romney’s foreign policy advisers, has actually spoken out in favor of talking to Iran. However, that view is by far an outlier among Romney’s team. While some of them have tried to push the claim that Iran is working with al Qaeda, others have said or written that the U.S. should take a more militaristic approach toward the Islamic Republic:
    ELIOT COHEN: Soon after the 9/11 attacks, Cohen, now director of the strategic studies program and Johns Hopkins University, called for the overthrow of the Iranian government. And that thinking doesn’t appear to have changed. In 2009, Cohen again called for the overthrow of the Iranian regime and said either attack Iran or it gets nukes. “The choices are now what they ever were: an American or an Israeli strike, which would probably cause a substantial war, or living in a world with Iranian nuclear weapons, which may also result in war, perhaps nuclear, over a longer period of time.”

    MICHAEL HAYDEN: On CNN last year, former CIA director (and prominent torture advocate) Michael Hayden said attacking Iran over its nuclear program might not be a bad idea. “In my personal thinking — I need to emphasize that — I have begun to consider that that may not be the worst of all possible outcomes,” he said.

    ERIC EDELMAN: Edelman was a career diplomat and former aid to Vice President Dick Cheney. Earlier this year in an article in Foreign Affairs, Edelman, along with two other co-authors, said that the U.S. will either have to attack Iran or contain its nuclear weapons capability. “The military option should not be dismissed because of the appealing but flawed notion that containment is a relatively easy or low-risk solution to a very difficult problem,” they wrote.

    NORM COLEMAN: Coleman, the former Republican senator from Minnesota, said in 2007 that if Israel ever attacks Iran, the United States should join in. “If something is taken,” Coleman said, “the United States is going to be part of that. We have to understand that. There is no saying, ‘Israel did it.’”

    KIM HOLMES: In 2005, the Heritage Foundation’s Kim Holmes worried that the Europeans, by negotiating with Iran over its nuclear program, might be preventing the U.S. from using military force to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. Holmes called it a “serious mistake” to allow Iran to obtain the bomb because “Iran itself is simply too untrustworthy to be trusted with nuclear weapons.”


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Gee. Quite an assortment of neocon scuzzbuckets. And they're not even "in office." Or is it a case of "never left"?

PS: Thanks for the heads-up on that thread, bobthedrummer! Will be perusing and very much chipping in the coming days...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:41 PM
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11. Never left-and these CORPORATE FASCISTS started all this CHAOS bro! n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 02:57 PM
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8. Another of junior's men picked to run a major governmental operation: tell me with a straight face
that this not a monstrously jubilant PNACers' RW wet dream. :patriot:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 03:21 PM
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10. When he was only a four-star general, Petraeus warned Iran becoming a 'thugocracy'
Robert Gates must've written a great letter of recommendation. Otherwise, what the heck?



Petraeus warns Iran becoming 'thugocracy'

(AFP) – Mar 7, 2010

WASHINGTON — General David Petraeus, the head of US Central Command, warned Sunday that Iran is becoming a "thugocracy" in attempts to suppress popular anger over last year's contested presidential vote results.

"I think you've heard it said by pundits that Iran has gone from being a theocracy to a thugocracy," Petraeus, whose command stretches from Egypt to Pakistan and includes Iran, said on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS."

"And that is again because of the emergence of this reform movement of the citizens who are outraged at the hijacking of the election that took place back last summer."

SNIP...

Petraeus said it was not clear whether Tehran had definitively decided to pursue nuclear weapons, as many Western nations fear.

But he said such a decision was "a little bit immaterial at this point in time, because all of the components of a program to produce nuclear weapons... have been proceeding."

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ji4GsN_oOCNBAAL95Koqas54qEHQ



Wish Corporate McPravda made it clear that's something's not quite right with the nation's leadership.
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