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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:14 PM Original message |
"Bring on the revolution! Let the government collapse!" is just another way of saying |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. And if we do nothing? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I support OWS. I also strongly support VOTING. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. +1 nt |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Frequently in life, |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. If that revolution weren't so very adept at identifying and solving problems I might agree. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Problems have been solved? |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Look at their working models and apply them community-wide, city-wide, nation-wide |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. OK where can I find these models? |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Why so aggressive? Oh well. If you can't look at how they're organizing at camps and solving problem |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. You misunderstand me |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Not voting won't solve any problems. It won't send any message |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. voting for center-right dlc and new democrats sends the same message |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not voting for any Dem puts RETHUGS into power. |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. the primaries are rigged too |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Yes, "not voting won't solve any problems." |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. ... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. +1 |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Well said |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Tell me when the general assemblies have said don't vote |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. One of our OWS activists has been registering people |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Neither have I |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. That's great. But I had just read an article about a controversy |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Which article is that? Link please. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Sorry, I have no idea. n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. And you just read it?! Sorry, I don't believe you. And I can 100% assert that there is |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. I read it within the last couple days. Do you remember where you read everything you read? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Pretty much, yeah. I have an uncanny near verbatim memory (much to the dismay of my husband... |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Learn what? |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Check out history under FDR and Johnson |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. exactly and we are already living under corporate authoritarianism |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Read Martin Luther King. His was the way. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You are so correct. It's exactly what the fascists want to have happen and |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. mlk was not a democrat or a republican |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. He was a strong advocate of VOTING as the only way to progress. |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Ill bet he did not advocate voting for a dixiecrat |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Do you believe mlk voted for the dixiecrats, who were democrats by the way. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Back then there were liberal Republicans, like Nelson Rockefeller |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. and what if he thought both were skunks. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. Who's calling for revolution? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Thanks. Was gonna ask that. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. that's what leaderless, unruly mobs do, don'tcha know? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. I've heard it countless times here on DU. Are you seriously saying you haven't? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. So what? Obama campaigned on 'change.' |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Yes I have used the r word |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. ROFLAMO |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. 1763? Can you say "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. No it started in 1763. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. No, it didn't: the only thing that "started" in 1763 was Pontiac's War, and France ceding Canada to |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. May I recommend a book? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Sure: you could go all the way back to the termination of the War of the Roses and the rise of the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. As I said Gary Nash an EXPERT in the revolutionary |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. And as I said: most people date the commencement of the American Revolution to 1776, and the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You need to learn HOW TO FRACKING READ |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Oh, I read just fine: Reggierocker stated the Revolution started in 1763, I corrected him with the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Buy bie have a good day |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Bye bye, my fellow DU'er nadinbrezinski! Parting is such sweet sorrow, to coin a phrase.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. You want to be technical 'bout that, look further back to the 1740s |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Ahhh: our resident "trend" spotter weighs in. Looks like you need to take another gander at a |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Yup, since Gary Nash is a nobody |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. And I'm even graced with one of those trademark "m'kay"s! This is my lucky day. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I did not say it started |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. No, ReggieRocker said it started in 1763, and you doubled down on that historical error by stating |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. The trens started in the 1740s |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. But we weren't debating "trends": the sole issue on the table was the mistaken notion that 1763 was |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Buy bie, now habpve the last word |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. I will vote but not for all dems |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ah yes, can only have a Democratic party sanctioned revolt, |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. Politicians are to OWS what turds are to salad. |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. No. They should earn the privilege, sure |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
50. The fascists have been brought on.. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
66. What I Think a Lot of People Fail to Realize About Revolutions |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. Who said "bring on the revolution, let the government collapse"? n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yes! Exactly what Jefferson, Madison, Paine, Franklin, and Washington were saying. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
73. It's fascism now ...... What the hell is there to learn ? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. I stand with Occupy Wall Street. |
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