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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:37 PM
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GRAFFITI IN TRIPOLI: ‘THANK NATO USA FRANCE ENGLAND’
GRAFFITI IN TRIPOLI: ‘THANK NATO USA FRANCE ENGLAND’ | Accompanying an article on international concerns surrounding former Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s death, the New York Times today placed this photograph of a Libyan at Bab al-Aziziya in Tripoli, the site of Qaddafi’s main palace:



http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/10/22/350870/graffiti-in-tripoli-thank-nato-usa-france-england/
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:39 PM
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1. No thanks to those who opposed President Obama's decision and wanted to impeach him for it.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:46 PM
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7. so much egg on face there
it has become an omlette
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:59 PM
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9. ROFL!!
Edited on Sat Oct-22-11 10:05 PM by ClarkUSA
<< so much egg on face there it has become an omlette >>

:rofl:

That. Is. Too Funny. And so true.

Did you notice the sound of silence from the heretofore "Impeach Him!" peanut gallery?

Has Kucinich sent out a press release yet? Maybe he's too busy worrying about his friend, Syria's "highly loved" Assad?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:10 PM
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14. Just googled for any statement on Kucinich
:eyes:

I am I am said Sam I am I am I am green eggs on face and ham!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:17 PM
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15. lolol
<< Just googled for any statement on Kucinich

:eyes:

I am I am said Sam I am I am I am green eggs on face and ham! >>


You. Are. Cracking Me Up!!! That's St. Dennis in a nutshell. :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:40 AM
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28. Don't whistle until you're out of the woods.
And, you're not there yet.

And I suppose images of the racist graffiti that seems to follow the rebels everywhere, praising their fighters for "purging slaves and black skin" would be unwelcome in this article.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:34 PM
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19. John McCain poo pood all over his accomplishment.
GOPers are two faced, shitheads. I'm sure Foxnews is all over this, NOT. Like OBL, they would love to tuck that fact into the memory hole. Anything to help out the GOP. I hope no one here said that kinda crap. Our standard is GWB for impeachable offenses...which pretty much means you cannot start a land war in Asia. So far Obama has a much better record then Cheney and his cronies at the CIA ever could have dreamed of. They were to busy listening to Rush and Glenn for guidance.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:03 PM
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20. He is thanked by average citizens in almost all of these uprisings
In Egypt, there were signs thanking him (as well as Cameron and Sarkozy) as in Libya.

At this point, all you have to do is look at the folks thanking him and those who are determined to give him no credit whatsoever. It's not hard at all to decide which group you'd rather stand with.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:22 AM
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31. Yes, when Tripoli fell there was a famous picture of Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron, and Rice.
(Susan Rice.)

It made heads explode here (particularly because people were hand wringing hoping for a violent and protracted battle for Tripoli).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/libyans-thank-obama-poster_n_933396.html
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:41 PM
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2. photographs..
photos, statistics, unreliable
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:54 PM
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3. But...but...but...their poor dictator didn't get due process! He died in an ambulance!
Who cares what the people of Libya think!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

:crazy:

Kick, Rec.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:07 PM
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13. AHA, some of us can hold more than just one thought
and realize what is good and bad and shades of gray. You might want to try that sometime.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:33 AM
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26. Deleted message
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:00 AM
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32. No---we just hate douchebag republicans.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 04:26 PM
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4. will there be an APC pulling over a statue?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:59 PM
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5. K&R
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:45 PM
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6. Don't forget Canada.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:50 PM
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8. And...
Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and Tunisia.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:05 PM
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11. Oh yeah.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:00 PM
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10. Written by anti-Gaddafi DUers no doubt.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:06 PM
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12. Ok fess up, who travelled to tripoli to write this?
I mean I have read it here that none in Libya likes NATO at this point, or the US...

So do fes up... WHO? And you forgot the Flag kids.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:28 PM
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17. Must have been Acorn.
:sarcasm:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:30 PM
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18. Ah THAT'S why they forgot the flag
Pinko murican hating lefties.... :sarcasm:

Or are they fascist this week? So hard to keep up

:hi:
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:27 PM
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16. The Repukes take exception to that.
To them it's not a legit war unless their chronies make billions of dollars at taxpayers expenxe.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:15 PM
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21. Agree with the sentiment but sure looks photoshopped to me -
- only graffiti in English and the texture looks like it was done with a giant crayon. Doesn't have the feathered edges of most spray painted graffiti. Appearance is very similar to what you get when using the basic photo-shop tool.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:24 PM
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22. I don't read arabic but there is plenty of that also
and we have seen plenty of English signs throughout the Arab Spring... you know unlike us, they are not monolingual.

Here is one from Egypt



And this one is in French from Tunis

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Akarion Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:37 AM
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24. Its not a photoshop
Here is video of the writing:
http://www.natochannel.tv/?uri=channels/381662/1485538

Pictures from the video:



Pictures released from NATO that can only be seen by plane:

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:17 AM
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30. Here's a link with more Libyan street art, the meme is constant:
http://libyanstreetart.blogspot.com/

You wouldn't agree with the sentiment because you didn't undergo a civil war where collective punishment laws meant that your entire city was to be punished for the acts of those who were brave enough to protest against those laws.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:27 PM
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23. Free Doom
n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:25 AM
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25. They forgot to add
the sarcasm smiley.
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Comrade Richard Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:35 AM
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27. I have no opinion on this beyond...
The fact that it's a single photo showing some random graffiti.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:56 AM
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29. You may remember this other story about graffiti from August, kpete.
Libya's spectacular revolution has been disgraced by racism

"This is a bad time to be a black man in Libya," reported Alex Thomson on Channel 4 News on Sunday. Elsewhere, Kim Sengupta reported for the Independent on the 30 bodies lying decomposing in Tripoli. The majority of them, allegedly mercenaries for Muammar Gaddafi, were black. They had been killed at a makeshift hospital, some on stretchers, some in an ambulance. "Libyan people don't like people with dark skins," a militiaman explained in reference to the arrests of black men.

The basis of this is rumours, disseminated early in the rebellion, of African mercenaries being unleashed on the opposition. Amnesty International's Donatella Rivera was among researchers who examined this allegation and found no evidence for it. Peter Bouckaert of Human Rights Watch similarly had not "identified one mercenary" among the scores of men being arrested and falsely labelled by journalists as such.

Lurking behind this is racism. Libya is an African nation – however, the term "Africans" is used in Libya to reference the country's black minority. The Amnesty International researcher Diana Eltahawy says that the rebels taking control of Libya have tapped into "existing xenophobia". The New York Times refers to "racist overtones", but sometimes the racism is explicit. A rebel slogan painted in Misrata during the fighting salutes "the brigade for purging slaves, black skin". A consequence of this racism has been mass arrests of black men, and gruesome killings – just some of the various atrocities that human rights organisations blame rebels for. The racialisation of this conflict does not end with hatred of "Africans". Graffiti by rebels frequently depicted Gaddafi as a demonic Jew.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/30/libya-spectacular-revolution-disgraced-racism
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:09 AM
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33. good reference, but the comments have actual references regarding mercenaries
A lack of documentary evidence for the existence of african mercenaries in Libya does not disprove their existence.

Most reporters on the round accept that Gaddafi flew in large numbers of black mercenaries. The problem seems to be that black immigrants are in some cases being treated as if they too were mercenaries.

A quick google of recent news stories from reporters on the ground suggests that to pretend there were no black mercenaries is naive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14693343

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8349414/African-mercenaries-in-Libya-nervously-await-their-fate.html

It is also unofrtunate that the writer of this article has chosen to treat other posters with such sarcasm. The comment posted by Mcollins is perfectly valid, and nowhere does he suggest that black africans are themselves somehow responsible for the targeting of black people in Libya.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:16 AM
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34. Right, because they are the only countries that matter, eh?
:sarcasm:
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