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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:34 PM
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So this occupy deal is for real, eh?
Hi y'all. :hi:

I'm a long time DUer. I've been here since March of 2003. I signed up just before the beginning of the war in Iraq. I used to go by the handle Droopy back then because that's just the way I felt- powerless, impotent, depressed. I saw the disaster that was looming and couldn't do a damn thing about it. Lots of people were trying their hardest to avert that disaster, but we were a wounded nation and the force of those who wanted blood in retaliation would not be denied. Couple that with leadership that was willing and ready, actually just looking for an excuse to let the bombs fly, and off we went down the road to one of the biggest blunders in our nation's history.

I knew what was going to happen. I knew that everyone in the Bush administration was lying to us and stoking the flames of war, playing that 9/11 card every chance they got. It didn't take a genius. I was a 30 year old trucker, you know, not exactly a Ph.D. It was just plain to see and I don't understand how everyone else didn't see it and stop the madness that we were descending into. But we didn't and we might never recover.

For those of you who don't recognize me, I haven't posted an OP in GD in what seems like several years. I'm more of a lounge and groups kind of guy now days. But I've been reading you guys here and there and a lot more here lately. I see a lot of hope here now and enthusiasm for OWS. Is this new movement for real? God, I hope so! I'll admit that I've been pessimistic. After seeing millions of people take to the streets worldwide to protest against the Iraq war only to be denied, it didn't seem to me that any kind of civil unrest beyond the most extreme could stop the powers that be from doing as they pleased.

Now? Hmmmm. I've been sensing hope, not only in many of you but also within myself. I find myself wanting to do something, anything that might help the cause, and I feel like my effort might actually be productive and not akin to throwing a tomato against a stone wall. I see the possibility that things might change for the better, the vastly better, in my country and in my lifetime. Hell, maybe within a very short period of time. This is something that I've desired since I was old enough to be politically conscious. I've actually known since I was a child that the world could be a vastly better place if we could set aside our greed. That's pretty simple, but that's the central concept, right?

Will it happen? I don't know, but I'm going to do what I can. Man, I work 55 hours a week and I've got bills to pay. I live in a small town in the middle of the country. I'm not going to be able to make it to many protests, but I'm going to find a way to contribute to this cause and do what I can to further it. This feels like the real deal to me and I feel like I owe a debt to those out there who are on the streets and making their voices be heard. I think solidarity is the right word. Yes, solidarity.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:36 PM
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1. Hi there, and yes it is the real thing
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:40 PM
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3. I feel the same way, it seemed like Democrats couldn't get a word in edgewise during the Bush....
occupation. Even now with the Republicans in just one branch it is difficult to impossible to get things done in our political system. So, this looks like the answer...taking it to the streets.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:39 PM
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2. Well said, my dear Tobin!
I admire your commitment to this cause. You have a lot on your plate, and I really admire the way you're taking on more.

And yes, I believe that the OWS and the rest of them are on to something. Something to celebrate!

I'm proud to recommend.

:hi:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:40 PM
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4. I do believe it is!
Usually the problem would be keeping it in the news, but with the way the protesters have been treated in some locations that's not much of a problem this time. Once we finally got the notice of the media it's been pretty constant. Now it's spreading, it's going global. It's kind of hard to ignore something once it's reached a global level!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:03 AM
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5. I think its the real thing, Tobin, happy to see you here,
and happy to encourage you to use your writing talents in our behalf, in and around your 'small town,' and for us all elsewhere.

Hope you've seen video of the Marine in NYC, holding off the NYPD.

:hi:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:12 AM
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6. It's real, and we're not going away.
Ever.

To hope and solidarity.
:toast:

http://occupyindiana.org/
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:18 AM
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7. Excellent!
Thanks for the link. :toast:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:23 AM
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8. I think it is the real deal this time.
:-)
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:56 AM
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9. I hope it is real.
I also felt despair over Bush. Some people got sick of my (small mass) emails reporting all the crap that he was doing.

BTW, you write well.

Good luck in your efforts.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:24 AM
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10. No, no, let's talk about the deficit and cutting SS and Medicare. /sarcasm
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 05:24 AM by philly_bob
The Occupy movement changed the conversation to Jobs, Student Debt, and Financial Accountability.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:36 AM
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11. hi tobin!
:hi:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:25 AM
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12. as the great poet once wrote "Tomorrow's uprising shall be sweet"
- William Morris the 19th Century British socialist and poet.....Could this be what is really happening? I don't know. I think it may be. But at the very least - it has changed the conversation and for the first time in a generation taken the taboo subject of unfair wealth disparity and income distribution and control of the government by the banks and corporations from the fringes of respectable opinion and put it into the mainstream - and for the first in a generation I am starting to feel just a bit optimistic about the future for the world. Maybe, just maybe there is some hope after all.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:29 AM
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13. I simply don't have time for this in my life...
But it's simple...

I MUST make time for this! I have made time for this, and I will continue to make time.

I can't afford not to.

Welcome back!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:39 AM
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14. Well said, Tobin
My best to you and your sweetie.

Love & Peace,
pinboy3niner
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 10:01 AM
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15. Yes, it's real
Turns out that we were the change we were waiting for. It's unfortunate that Obama didn't come out as a leader, well, ever, since the election, but it does make the whole Three Card Monty that is our political "system" just so blatantly obvious and I guess I can be grateful for that.

Solidarity is so the right word.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 10:13 AM
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16. Maybe you can find a way to help
http://www.occupytogether.org/

Locally, Occupy New Haven needs socks and bottled water. Maybe there are needs lists for a group near you.

Check out media coverage online. I've been engaging in online verbal jousting with some of the negative commenters on our local coverage. I may not convince the person I'm replying to, but maybe something I write will resonate with another reader who doesn't understand what OWS is about.

This morning I replied to a guy who doesn't think it takes luck to get a job in this economy. His opinion is that "it's all about choices".
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 10:24 AM
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17. My plantars fasciitis is back.
:(
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:57 PM
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18. I'm with you. . .I hope it's real, and that it will be strong enough to last!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:22 PM
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19. I think it's going to take a lot to fight capital - but OWS is a start.
At least I see people acknowledging that there is a problem and some that are willing to resist. It's gotta start somewhere.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:36 PM
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20. It's for real!!
and about time!! went to occupy boston today and it feels very real

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:38 PM
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21. Hiya, Tobin!
:hi:
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:56 PM
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22. It's Happening
I'm hoping this is it while I'm also musing, what took so long...?
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