Through the looking class

There are times I no longer recognize this country. there are things that our leaders have done that should churn your stomach... but they are defended since a DEMOCRAT gave the order. It seems to me that situational ethics are now partisan... and it is part of the process of closing a society, where even what was wrong oh even ten years ago, it's ok today. Something did snap on 9.11... and has led to a level of fear that allows people to justify things that they would not have ten year ago.

Those of us who ever bothered readying the PNAC plan will have to admit... they succeeded... Strengthening American Defenses also had this as part of it's transformational plan. This plan to change the country into something it wasn't has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

The Banality of Evil is actually instructive of where we are... that is all. I got no idea what will snap the American people out of that fear induced paranoia and fear of everything back into a moral people again. Quite simply all can be justified in the mame of protecting the fatherland from that nebulous terrorist... we are no longer the nation of Nuremberg... and that is through the looking glass...

Nadin

PS perhaps OWS will help to snap us back out from this... cancer. But it is high time we remove it from our psyche... or the world of 1984 will be more prophecy than fiction.

What a kind and gentle place DU has become since 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sippenhaft

Sippenhaft or Sippenhaftung (English: "kin liability") was a form of collective punishment practiced in Nazi Germany towards the end of the Second World War. It was a legalized practice in which relatives of persons accused of crimes against the state were held to share the responsibility for those crimes and subject to arrest and sometimes execution.

of exactly how it applies to DU.

Illumination, please.

Granted in a few cases they probably do, but if tat is the case a court of law somehow should be involved as part of process

'Occupy' protesters find allies in ranks of the wealthy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=5033467&mesg_id=5033467

The rest better watch out (if it's only me). :rofl:

This warmongering, use of drones, rendition, torture, special and psy ops... it is very reminiscent of the other side.

You know, the non-compassionate ones...

Our hope lies in the streets.

and the others like the kock brothers, the murderoch, and families.

I guess that must make me baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

I'm not going to do them any physical harm, though.

But if sh*t was to ever happen to them, I would gladly :rofl:

Without any remorse.

C'est la vie.

But I got them pesky principles.

:hi:

It's gotten me in trouble a few times.

:rofl: also got me in trouble a few times. ;)

..whether they be US citizens or not....WHAT has this country turned into? It's OK to take people out if "someone" declares them bad?

Can these defenders imagine how they'd feel if other countries started attacking this country with drones?

What is Obama (or any previous potus for that matter) THINKING?? How in the world can they justify these murders? If we have lost compassion for others we are lost ourselves.We should be ashamed of so many things we do in the name of "defense".




I agree and say thank heavens for the OWS people. I think maybe they will teach so many others what it means to share & have compassion for other human beings....

Well, I suppose he's thinking he's sworn to protect the country from enemies both foreign and domestic.

How Vietnam era of you.

I would change that "if" to "when."
I hope I'm wrong yet again.

Thank you

Rec

Did you mean through the looking Glass or through the looking Class?

I kind of like class. It gives your post a deeper meaning.

i was wondering what this post was addressing in its lecture, and am assuming it is the killing of someone. yet i can read it also as the loss of rights at airport. yet still i hear the defense of a person losing rights at the airport stating we dont have to fly.

so where is a person position of hypocrisy?

Attacks on the fourth Ammendment, an over reaching state... Part of same song.

Something snapped in the collective psyche in 2001. Not a good thing.

our society has shifted so much, in so many areas, it is a huge ass experiment on all of us, but especially kids.

in every way. ways we never even thought about way back in 2000.

who knows where we are going mentally, emotionally not to mention protection, economically, fear based.

nothing like this has even happened in society before....

Because it has happened before. Societies that close down are quite predictable. People in streets is a good thing.

my comments have to do with a much huger experiment. lack of family connections, parenting, internets, civility, 'isms, .... on top of what you are talking about. not just american. world wide. take a look