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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:25 AM
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Something horrible has been slipping under the radar.
Something so horrible that denial slammed itself in place...I will swear, during the last attack upon #OccupyOakland by multiple police agencies, as the live stream host "OakFoSho" (his high school email, he laughs about it) on livestream/globalrevolution and his own stream talked peacefully to a row of riot cops, something about why are they there or something, and a cop, in a nearly breaking gutteral voice said "I have the right to kill you now" or extremely similar. OakFoSho moved on, but a few people in the chat room asked in all caps if that cop actually said that. My denial had slammed down as I'm too damn sensitive for that kind of thing...but their posts caused me to post it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2233770#2233838

I do not wish to allow this to pass.

I wish to learn the truth of this, whether it happened or not. Does anyone record the livestream(s)? Is there any record?
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:38 AM
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1. "Oderint dum metuant" is Latin for "Let them hate, as long as they fear. "


From a "Big City Cops" Facebook page.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:01 AM
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4. Exactly!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:41 AM
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2. I missed it
but would not shock me. No, not all cops are that way (I am starting to think though that OPD has a higher percentage of them), but the psychology of police work would not shock me. A good number of cops, NOT ALL... truly see the OWSers as the 95% they deal with, that can't play with others. A few officers do develop a true us v them attitude due to the work. In a bad environment OPD is one of them, they are free to express it too.

It has to do with the psychology of police work, and how we treat them, and how we train them... and how we fear them. It is also symbolic of the issues we are having as a society.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:44 AM
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3. I posted it before 1am on the 3rd, before the call was made for OPD to come and reinforce, so who
Edited on Sat Nov-05-11 02:05 AM by Fire Walk With Me
knows who it was :(

Edit: I agree. We are past the need or use of AUTHORITY.

WE are our authority, each of us with an equal weight.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:42 AM
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5. I heard the cop say that too.
But it's not like we weren't aware of what they are feeling. Anyone who has thought about the meaning of the young Marine being so brutally hit with the gas canister and now has brain damage knows they want to kill us.

They just need the orders to come down.

And who knows, maybe our President got some orders from his meeting up with the people at G 8.



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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 06:22 AM
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6. And the army guy beat with a baton, left in cell for 18 hours
with a ruptured spleen. Now in intensive care. All just for trying to walk away when told to.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:05 PM
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9. This will be a little "woo woo" for some here,
But demons do exist, and some have hold of the bodies and minds of those in the military and in our local police forces.

As well as those who are out and out criminals.

The voice I heard come at me over the internet, while the gentlemen recording it was walking away,. was a very guteral demonic voice. There are people inside the Bay Area police forces that would have loved to have been SS during the Third Reich.




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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:09 PM
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10. It was the sound of sickness. I didn't expect it, I couldn't believe it.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:47 PM
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13. Send Light. nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:08 AM
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16. It's called the Stanford Prison Experiment...
or as Philip Zimbardo dubbed it, the Lucifer Effect.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:17 PM
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11. I heard somebody say that but it wasn't clear from the livestream
that it was a cop. There were civilian assholes around, too, at the time. The guy had his back turned to the camera, and iirc, he was wearing a windbreaker so, he could have been a cop or he could have just been a civilian jerk. I couldn't tell.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:20 PM
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12. I didn't see any policemen's mouths move, too dark, but OakFoSho didn't move
his camera...don't know...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 11:46 PM
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14. Same here. I heard the conversation, but it wasn't clear who was talking. Fire Walk With Me can
Tweet @OakFoSho (Spenser) and ask him about it.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:13 AM
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17. I've already emailed him!
I'm trying to stay off of Twitter because it appears that rumor can overwhelm the concept until anything incorrect causes a wave of correctional feedback.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 11:19 AM
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7. kick for evidence collection
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:36 PM
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8. K&R
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 11:50 PM
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15. K & R!
Bastard! Hope he rots in hell whoever he is!
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