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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:20 PM
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How do you think the non-union Honda workers in Ohio voted on Issue 2?
Ask yourself that question next time you need a new car.

Don
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:23 PM
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1. no one will "get it".
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:24 PM
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2. I unrecommended this post
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 09:25 PM by catabryna
I see no reason to pit one worker against another. It does work both ways in this instance.

eta: lest there be any misunderstanding, I am a strong union supporter.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:27 PM
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6. They're scabs.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:30 PM
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7. They are scabs if they cross a picket line...
these folks didn't cross a picket line to get their jobs. I've never been a member of a union. How dare you call me a scab! (I'm sure you didn't mean that). :hippie:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:33 PM
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10. Scab is a worker who refuses to join a labor union
a : a contemptible person b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:35 PM
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11. Dictionary reference please. Thanks! nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:37 PM
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13. merriam-webster
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scab
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:39 PM
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15. Now, I need specific instances of where I, or anyone at Honda has done that...
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 09:45 PM by catabryna
using your definition.

eta: (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

By this definition, anyone who is not unionized or doesn't make union scale wages is a scab? That's over-the-top.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:55 PM
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18. Do you not know how to do research on Google?
Honda workers voted down union membership.

If you need a link for that you can go find it yourself.

And your description of the definition I supplied is really off the wall, because that is not what it says at all. Props for having a great imagination though.

See ya.

Don
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:07 PM
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19. Do you not realize that when you make a statement,
it is your responsibility to provide the background information?
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:36 PM
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20. Something ugly you peel off your skin after a week or so.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:35 PM
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12. They reap union benefits without being members of the union. If it weren't for the "threat" of
unionization, Honda would be paying their employees even shittier wages.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:37 PM
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14. Wage information for UAW workers vs. non-union workers at Honda please.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 09:53 PM by catabryna
I lost my Honda. My next new car will be a Chevy (if I can ever afford it). But, I do want to see a reputable link to back up your statement.

eta: I do agree that unions do raise wages for everyone... but, I also believe the wages payed at Honda are far lower than the average UAW worker. That's why I want to see a link.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:40 PM
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16. Me too, and I almost NEVER unrec. I am sure that they know that
union gains lift all boats.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:24 PM
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3. Buy American!
:toast:
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:25 PM
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4. Nice, pit people against each other...
unrecced.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:44 PM
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23. You mean like union teachers against charter teachers? nt
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:26 PM
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5. Obviously the employers need to compete with the union shops so

even the non-union workers should vote for unions to keep their pay and benefits safe.


I don't know if they were smart enough to do this or not but it is the only thing that makes sense.
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:31 PM
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8. I thought the issue related to government workers...?
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:32 PM
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9. Truth hurts.
K&R for the truth.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:40 PM
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17. Read this:
Ohio Dispatch: Anti-Union Law Divides John Boehner's GOP District

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/ohio-john-boehner-issue-2-union-kasich
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:39 PM
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21. They help keep wages low thoughout the U.S.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:41 PM
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22. k & r. nt
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