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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:51 PM
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Oh Oh - ANGRY Cain Accuser Says She Has "COMPLETE EXPLICIT DOCUMENTATION" Of her Sexual Harassment
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 10:55 PM by kpete
Oh Oh: Cain Accuser Says She Has "COMPLETE EXPLICIT DOCUMENTATION" Of her Sexual Harassment

Judging from Gloria Borger's reporting on CNN just now, Karen Kraashauer, the woman who filed a sexual harassment complaint against Herman Cain, and won a settlement, is now clearly angry about Cain's denials. And I can understand why. He's saying she never experienced sexual harassment and saying that is a "fact." If I'd been sexually harassed by a boss years ago and had thought it was over with but then had to hear him say publicly it never happened at all, I'd be furious. It's a second kind of emotional assault. She wants to get all five women together to tell their tales.

More to the point, she says she has the complete documentation of her sexual harassment in her possession, in explicit detail, and is now released from any confidentiality agreement. Borger also reported that Kraashauer insisted that the settlement agreement was specifically on the grounds of sexual harassment, and for $46,000, a year's salary.

If that's true, then what's in those documents is going to be by far the most important factor from here on. The NYT has talked to Kraashauer as well. It will interesting to see how their reporting develops.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/11/the-kraashauer-factor.html
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:53 PM
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1. Uh oh--here's the other shoe! Wonder how many shoes this centipede is wearing? nt
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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5. I'm thinking millipede - 999 more
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 PM
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10. Ah, a busy little fucker, you surmise? nt
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:12 PM
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11. I understand he mostely struck out.
Hell, he's 0 for five right now.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:16 PM
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12. ....
:rofl:

He's not coming off like much of a player!

On a serious note, I want to hear from the women who acceded to his demands because they feared they'd lose their jobs. We know they're out there.

I'll bet they have a story to tell of threats, intimidation, bullying and abuse that will paint a very vivid picture.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:04 AM
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17. Patience, Grasshopper
The stories are forthcoming, I have little doubt.

Right now, The Powers That Be and the MSM are in the process of showing the oaf the door. Once that is accomplished, the sordid stories will start circulating and Cain's speaking career will be reduced to Jerry Springer, et al.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:51 PM
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31. They are out there and they are probably feeling ashamed
imagine how these women will be treated if they come forward?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:11 AM
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34. I'd be sympathetic. Maybe I'm not run of the mill in that regard.
If someone turned up and said "Hey, these were my bills--light, heat, mortgage, phone, etc., I have ...(fill in a number) kids, no husband, and jobs don't grow on trees around here. He made it clear that if I got along and went along,I'd be employed, and if I didn't, I wouldn't. I didn't want to be homeless and out of a job...oh, and that russian hands/roman fingers routine, and the head-to-the-crotch move? That's apparently his MO! He pulled that stunt on me, too!"

It doesn't really matter if you go along or refuse, too--harassment is harassment. Acceding to the requests of a bully doesn't make the bully "not a bully."



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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:31 PM
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33. Ha! 9 9 9
Fulfilling Cain's interest in Numerology.


Nine being his favorite mysteriously reoccuring number.

I am guessing we are going to see 9 victimes.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:32 AM
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36. DUzy!
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:58 PM
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2. Love it nt
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:58 PM
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3. HE doesn't think he ever once acted inappropriately, but what
harasser ever does?

He's pathetic.





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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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4. I can't believe the stupidity of liars like Cain. Pissing off the accuser is probably the only thing
that could have induced her to come forward.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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6. there go the speaking fees.....get out while you can, hermie
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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7. Can this night get any better? nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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8. Amazing what it takes to topple a criminal like Cain -- !!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:06 PM
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9. But there were "No Facts" LOL!
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:17 PM
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13. I'm also thrilled that the" brothers" will have egg on their face.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:19 PM
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14. "now released from any confidentiality agreement"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:21 PM
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15. LOL!
Perfect!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:25 PM
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32. Oh boy! You can share!
:popcorn:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:12 AM
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35. OK, that pic is FUNNY! nt
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:24 PM
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16. not too soon, I hope -- just a few weeks more... oh pleeze!
I just want to see all the rabid Cain backers toss millions of $$$ into his little red wagon before it self destructs. I want him to spend millions on advertising, trying to get his idiot plans and rants front and center, before he goes belly-up. I want him spouting obvious bullshit in the next 3 republican "debates" when he's about to go down in flames.

Cain has so much potential to take a lot of the GOP down with him... it'd be a shame to waste that kind of talent.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:35 AM
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18. a virtual orgasm for all organisms!
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:24 AM
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19. I am really excited for tonight's debate!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:30 PM
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20. tip of the iceberg.
that's my guess. the man is a pig.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:45 PM
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21. Oh Yeah!
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:53 PM
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22. Is this the woman who said earlier that she has tape recordings?
If not, then the 'documentation' will probably consist of her allegations and nothing else.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see Cain -and by extension the Republicans- bite the big one on this. But so far it's all been swept under the rug as allegations, which the willfully blind can ignore.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:56 PM
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24. unless there were witnesses and sworn depositions
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:08 PM
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26. That would also be a delightful surprise!
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:55 PM
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23. That is what happens when you start attacking the ones who have come forward

more come forward because they are outraged by those attacks, and they are the ones prepared for the fight.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:00 PM
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25. I knew there was a video somewhere!
There always is. ;-)
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:13 PM
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27. Is This Part of the Democratic Machine?
I'm stunned. I didn't even know there was a machine.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:13 PM
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28. Republicons have massive problems with truth
not to mention their piggish 'family values.'
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:43 PM
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29. How can you never be inappropriate with anyone?
When Cain said that 'I've never done anything inappropriate with anyone', that is bullshit. Nobody alive over the age of 6 can claim that with a straight face.

Also, as far as the woman who he was in the car with I hope she pulls her hotel records (if possible) to show Cain had upgraded her room. Hopefully there is some paper trail about that.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:50 PM
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30. Oh my just when I think it can't get any better!
:popcorn:
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