The installation of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney in 2000 was a coup.

Do you agree or disagree? It's that simple DU.

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!

He said that in a speech at the University of Iowa Iowa City Iowa. I gave him a standing ovation.

And good on you, too! :thumbsup:

listened only to the M$M, and or lack any ability to think critically.

In short; they're completely ignorant.

Check out the Rendon Group, just for example. Their cyber operatives are reportedly busy on all sorts of social networks, including DU.

or don't know much about how they work

by republican owned electronic touch screen voting machines. "Lost" ballots. After the fact replacement ballots. Errors in reporting. Whatever works...

edit- among other things. Media bias, voter suppression.

in high Dem precincts.

what the vote turned out to be. So even if the Supreme Joke had let them count the votes ONCE, Bush was in. It's unfair but for some reason it's legal.

I was watching the State meetings in Florida while Gore's lawyer was making the case.


*Thanks for the star whoever you are.*

And the response I got? "How much harm can he do?"

Have we tallied it up yet?

Nixon got Henry Kissinger to secretly manipulate the Paris peace talks with North Vietnam to kill a pre-election agreement with the Democratic administration that would have given them the election according to the research of Eric Alterman of The Nation magazine. And recall Reagan's secret talks with Iran to delay the release of the hostages to prevent Carter from getting any credit.

...referring to President Kennedy's assassination on Nov. 22, 1963.

McCain" before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas."

I knew that "tragedy" seemed to be one code word of those involved --

but never knew about McCain saying this --

Obviously he's in the know -- and very arrogant and relaxed about what happened!!


As always -- thanks for the info, Octafish!!

-------- and doubt there ever was one!

The electronic voting computers began to come in during late 1960's and

I think election steals by computer were the real strategy!


And obviously, even now with citizens rising up they can't completely count

on the computers, but they certainly help. Though they are employing as many

other dirty tricks as possible to steal elections!



Meanwhile -- if anyone is interested -- two Florida journalists in late 1960's

began to investigate the very odd and unlikely results being reported by computers --

which were UNVERIFIABLE.

Their investigation led to a book contract -- but pretty much as soon as the books

reached book store shelves they were taken down.

Here's the story for anyone interested --

book is still available here and there for $3 --

family keeps this website going where you can read the book --


http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm



ONE THING'S FOR SURE -- THESE STEALS DIDN'T BEGIN IN 2000 -- !!!

This Wiki's definition of a coup.

A coup d'état (English: /ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/, French: ; plural: coups d'état; translation: strike (against the) state, literally: strike/blow of state)—also known as a coup, putsch, and overthrow—is the sudden, extrajudicial deposition of a government,<1><2><3> usually by a small group of the existing state establishment—typically the military—to replace the deposed government with another body; either civil or military. A coup d'état succeeds if the usurpers establish their dominance when the incumbent government fails to prevent or successfully resist their consolidation of power. If the coup neither fully fails nor achieves overall success, the attempted coup d'état is likely to lead to a civil war.

What Bush and Co. didn't wasn't this.

If you want to say they were handed a win in a rigged election, I'm with ya 100%.

It's a whitewashed coup, one that's meant to continue an appearance of democracy while undermining it wherever possible/necessary to meet their goals.

Look up "judicial coup", you might find a definition more befitting what occurred in the U.S.

...that's another facet.

by MSM --

which came in during 1965 -- and which gave our corporate press new powers to

PREDICT and CALL elections -- to PREDICT and NAME winning candidates -- to PREDICT

and CALL electoral college votes and CALL states for presidential candidates!!


Before the large computers, at the most they could sit around and discuss the "likelihood"

of a neighborhood going this way or that way -- but that was it.

They could only report on actual votes cast --

We should return to reporting only actual vote tallies ---


The LARGE computers and those new powers to PREDICT and CALL winners and losers was

simply REVERSED in 2000.


All of the computers have to go --


And, btw, we have had the electronic voting computers with us since the late 1960's --

I'd question every election back to Nixon/Humphrey --

and doubt there ever was a "Southern Strategy" -- possibly there has only ever been

theft by computer?



In the late 1960's, two journalists in Florida began to investigate the odd and unlikely

-- and UNVERIFIABLE -- election results being reported by computers.

They wrote a book on their investigation under contract -- but as soon as it hit the

book stores it was taken off the shelves.

You can read the book here for free -- it's also available here and there for about $3

a copy -- some libraries have it.



VOTESCAM -- THE STEALING OF AMERICA --

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

and that is how all of US were "governed", that is the principle of how our US military members were "ordered", that is the initial form of how our RIGHTS were attacked.

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!

Conclusion

No one, not even the most enthusiastic supporter of Governor Bush’s campaign, should feel entirely comfortable with the result in Bush v. Gore. If I am right about what the Supreme Court did, then the best that can be said is that the Court trumped the supposed lawlessness of the Florida Supreme Court with lawlessness of its own. As I have suggested, I do not believe the United States Supreme Court had adequate reason to suspect the Florida Supreme Court of a nakedly partisan effort to “steal” the election. But the more troubling question is whether, even if the Justices view of the Florida Supreme Court was correct, they were justified in acting without really being concerned about whether they had a sound legal basis for doing so.

Judges, like everyone else, sometimes act on instinct. That is inevitable and, as I said at the outset, often unobjectionable, within limits. But a close election is sure to inflame partisan passions and skew judgment in a partisan direction. That makes it all the more important for judges to hesitate, to question their own motives, and to make sure that their judgments have a solid basis in the law before they act. That may be a lot to expect. But if there is any court of which we should expect it, it is the United States Supreme Court. In Bush v. Gore, a majority of the Court, prompted by a general and unjustified sense that something needed to be done, plunged in, splintered along ideological lines, and played a prominent role in deciding the election. This was not a triumph for the rule of law.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/sunstein/chapter9.html

We haven't been the same since, bobthedrummer.


And we can never fully repair the massively destructive cost in human despair on our world.




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And don't forget this one:

Florida Governor Jeb Bush, right, gives a thumbs-up sign to Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris during a swearing-in ceremony at the House chamber of the state capitol November 21, 2000 in Tallahassee.





And they still walk free.

Occupy may help change that.

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!

;-)

aided by the congress and the senate. They should have been impeached.

Agree -- they should have been impeached -- !!

They did make a buck, though.

For their cronies, I mean.

http://thekomisarscoop.com/2007/04/questions-linger-about-bushes-and-bcci/

Check your PM.

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!

era that the Bush Crime Family---literally, not metaphorically---did not have a major role in (as in, forces, not merely pawns). NONE.

the actual "election" with the totally one sided corporate media propaganda campaign of slander and libel against Gore, motivated primarily because he was the preeminent political champion for opening up the Internet to the people. The corporate media came to see this reduced level of information distribution, dissemination and overall loss of information control, as a direct threat to their business plan, aka; monopoly and thus decided to play Zeus to Gore's Prometheus. However instead of eating his liver for all eternity, the corporate media owners and upper management had their pundit buzzards take bites of Gore's credibility with continuous slander and libel, ie: "Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet" being a prime lie but also just one of many.

The same corporate media would call Florida for Bush after having already called it for Gore and while it was obviously still in dispute, this gave Bush a strategic advantage in the battle to have all the votes counted, some of this calling for Bush was prompted by pressure from the highest echelons of corporate media management/ownership. This election calling flip was consistent with their earlier overnight/48 hour flips on the perceived winners of the debates. Basically the corporate media betrayed the American People's best interests and gave a free pass to a corrupt, incompetent Bush; to the most powerful job in the land, a position for which he was woefully inadequate to serve, to say the least. In short the corporate media ignored or downplayed Bush's errors, mistakes and lies.

Of course much of the same corporate media would go on to brainwash the American People using mindless fear in re: to the war with Iraq while using subliminal mind association games by continuously citing Saddam Hussein's name and 9/11 in the same paragraph if not the same sentence in spite of overwhelming evidence that he had nothing to do with it, they didn't even have to connect the two other than by grammatical means for this brainwashing job to work.

The "election" shenanigans in Florida was the second stage of the coup with the conflict of interest laden Harris' work, the Butterfly Ballot, the obsolete vote counting machines in Democratic Districts, the disenfranchisement of legal voters from being allowed to vote due to supposed "felon" purging when they weren't felons and the interference of legitimate vote counting by out of state imported Congressional Aides and associates, that being the Brook Brothers' Riot, apparently security couldn't be found to insure that the vote counters could do their sacred duty without being intimidated.

The third stage of the coup began after the Florida Supreme Court ruled that all the votes in the state should be recounted and the U.S. Supreme Court immediately inserted itself into a process for which it had no business, nor Constitutional Authority, stopping the state of Florida from counting its' own votes, they couldn't even bring themselves to cite any of this as either setting or being based on precedent. What the Brook Brothers' Riot et al couldn't do, the U.S. Supreme Court did do.

The fourth stage of the coup was the cosmic timing of 9/11 coming at precisely the same time as the release of newspaper recounts of the votes were finally being published which of course depicted Gore winning. That of course was probably just a coincidence, but there sure were a lot of coincidences which somehow or another always seemed to benefit the Republican Party.

I have no doubt in my mind 2000 was a coup, however I don't view it as bloodless, countless people have died as a result, but to be honest the most cynical side of me, isn't even sure that it's over yet.

Thanks for the thread, bobthedrummer.

I'd like to see someone try to draw a meaningful distinction between 2000 and a coup.

The republicans know it.

And they'll do it again and again....They can't win fairly and they know it! They don't give a shit about fairness!!

Congress was closed down essential for months as citizens were still

reacting to the election fraud in 2000 --

and then hit with 9/11 -- and more questioning by citizens --

followed by Anthrax attacks!!


Certainly Congress recognizes the power and violence of the RW and that they

are out of hand --

However, Congress seems to be either part of the power play or deciding to

join on the side of power -- !

in favor of holding onto the scapegoat that the Dems gave them in Nader -- !!

Evidently, they don't wonder why the Dems hate Nader so much -- !!


Nader has long been after BOTH parties for taking corporate money -- even money from

RW Koch Bros and the criminal Pfizer and Chevron -- but why worry about that?

Meanwhile Dems haven't done one thing about computer voting steal -- or ending use of

computers! But why bother to notice any of that, either?


:evilgrin:

will be listed as the definition of coup d'etat.