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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:26 PM
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JOE PATERNO FIRED!


" (CBS/AP) STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Joe Paterno, the Penn State football coach who preached success with honor for half a century but whose legend was shattered by a child sex abuse scandal, was fired Wednesday by the school's board of trustees.


Paterno had offered to retire at season's end earlier in the day, saying he was "absolutely devastated" by the case, in which his onetime heir apparent, Jerry Sandusky, has been charged with molesting eight boys in 15 years, including at the Penn State football complex.


He had said he hoped the team could finish its season with "dignity and determination."


One emeritus trustee who was on a conference call with the board Tuesday told CBS News, "The tone of last night's call was of concern for all the people involved, including the children, the coach and the reputation of the school."



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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57321984/paterno-fired-over-penn-st-child-abuse-scandal/


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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:27 PM
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1. Good...he is a slimeball
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:29 PM
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2. Inevitable. Couldn't have imagined such an end for Paterno. But it had to be done.
What happened with Sandusky will forever be a stain on Penn State. No way to be happy about any of this, except he won't abuse any kids ever again.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:33 PM
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6. Its a sad situation for the molested kids first and foremost. Joe should have handed
over his resignation to the board effective immediately and NOT after this football season.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:37 PM
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11. Why should he resign?
I am not getting it.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:40 PM
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13. he was aware of the activity
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 10:40 PM by rufus dog
A horrible gruesome activity, and all he did was report the issue, a true leader would have refused to walk on the field unless the coach was fired immediately.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:51 PM
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20. Absolutely...no excuse. What would the school/BOD have done...fire him?
Would them have been short term fallout? sure. But how could he not understand the longterm implications of trying to sweep it under a rug? This was never going away...violated kids grow into violated adults and gain the means to get their day in court.

This is a disaster for Penn State and his inaction has destroyed his legacy. He was supposed to be a mentor and countless families put their trust in him. He failed miserably. A week ago, I thought he was special coach. Today, I think he was a special creep.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:01 PM
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27. Well said, and thank you.
I've read too many posts defending Laterno - not necessarily here, but other places, and it makes me absolutely sick. He had the power to do something, to take leadership and prevent these heinous crimes, but he kept silent.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:38 PM
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34. agree 100%. He had a ton of power AND actions were available that could have protected kids AND PSU
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 11:38 PM by spooky3
He would have been thoroughly supported had he done the right thing at the time, and it would only have reinforced his admirers' belief that he was a person with integrity and belief in the institution.

He and the other people participating in the coverup were NOT doing it out of a misguided belief in the institution, nor for greed. They did it because they cared more about protecting their abusing "buddy" than about helpless children and/or because they are so cold and self-centered that they really can't comprehend how wrong the abuse was.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:17 PM
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30. I think he should go to prison for a year at least
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:35 AM
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48. the predator coach had already been forced to retire after the 1998a
allegations. He hadn't worked there for years and Paterno KNEW why. As part of his retirement package the scum was still allowed access to the campus including the shower facilities and continued to do so for years with various young boys while Paterno and all the others that knew turned a blind eye to all of it.


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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:42 PM
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16. He was aware that a crime had been committed and failed to report to the police.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 10:43 PM by Segami
" The 84-year-old Paterno has been engulfed by outrage that he did not take more action after a graduate assistant, Mike McQueary, came to him in 2002 and reported seeing Sandusky in the Penn State showers with a 10-year-old boy. Paterno notified the athletic director, Tim Curley, and a vice president, Gary Schultz.

Curley and Schultz have since been charged with failing to report the incident to the authorities. Paterno hasn't been accused of legal wrongdoing. But he has been assailed, in what the state police commissioner called a lapse of "moral responsibility," for not doing more to stop Sandusky.


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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:49 PM
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19. Still no reason to fire someone
and what about the graduate student to 1st witnessed the event? why didnt he report it to the police? My believe is that he thought the school investigated the incident and nothing came off it.

That was a very harsh punishment for the coach.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:56 PM
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23. wow...that graduate student is the wide receiver coach today.
maybe a quid pro quo? Sorry, Paterno was in a unique position to seek justice for these children. He was untouchable. He could have forced the school to confront it - it might have been rough for the school for awhile, but the cover-up made them all partners in the crime.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:41 PM
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36. They better fire the wide receive coach
by the time I wake up tomorrow. The buck should stop with the AD and the firing should have only started and ended there. I hate to see Paterno go like this.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:00 AM
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41. Agreed...but I have more sympathy for him than Paterno.
This 28YO gard student knew his career in football was probably over if he spilled the beans...who'd have hired him? He could have even felt at personal risk. Not the case with Joe. He was untouchable. The whole BOD would go before he would have been fired for addressing this issue. I'm sorry that such a successful career is ruined and negated by such an awful cover-up...but the buck could have and should have stopped with Joe.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:50 PM
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39. He reported it to Paterno, who probably assured him he'd take care of it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:59 PM
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40. Paterno was 84 years old?
Wow. The stress will not be good for someone that age.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:45 PM
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38. He knew what was going on and failed to report it to the authorities as required by law.
Higher-ups at Penn do not constitute "the authorities".
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:25 AM
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42. The first person the witness notified was Joe Paterno
In 2002 a coaching assistant (who is now the Wide Receiver Coach for PSU) walked into the shower and witness Sandusky having sex with a minor. The witness called Joe Paterno first who then called the Athletic Director. The only thing they did was remove Sandusky from the Second Mile project (one that worked with underage foster boys) and bar Sandusky from bringing young children into the lockerroom.

In a nutshell they did nothing.

If that was your child - how would you feel?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:31 AM
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44. Because he didn't report a heinous crime to the authorities.
When he saw that the school was going to do nothing about it, he should have stepped up and done something to protect those children. There is no excuse for letting pedophilia go on and on like that and never do anything about it. That's why.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:30 PM
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3. he was going to quit at the end of the season....he didn't give a shit about the victims
football was more important
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:30 PM
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4. Agreed
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:35 PM
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8. But it does explain why he looked the other way when he found out.
He didn't get it then...he didn't get it now.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:58 AM
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45. You got that right!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:32 PM
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5. It was inevitable.
He should have resigned as soon as this became public. Joe Paterno's career is totally negated by this despicable act of cover-up. His own fault and no one to blame but himself.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:38 PM
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12. What he should have done was go to the police the second he found out about it.
Unfortunately, he was more concerned with saving face than a 10 year old boy being raped in his locker room. And from his behavior, I have a hard time imagining that he didn't know and turn something of a blind eye towards Sandusky's actions before that.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:34 PM
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7. As someone who looked up to Jo-Pa and the Penn State program for almost 40 years
I say good!

Adios Mother Fucker, what you did was inexcusable.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:36 PM
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9. and in response
Why is Matt Millen, one of the most ignorant assholes, on ESPN commenting on the story.

I get he is a Penn State Alum, played under Paterno, but the man is an idiot.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:41 PM
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14. Sandusky was also his position coach when he played at PSU
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:36 PM
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Delete - BUT MATT MILLEN IS AN IDIOT
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 10:38 PM by rufus dog
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:36 PM
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10. Charlatan!
:hi:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:42 PM
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15. Joey is one of many who should be let go.
Why did they allow Sandusky to stay on campus for the past 13 years (without an investigation), knowing the accusations at hand?

.....they wanted to protect the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ making football program. Shame.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:45 PM
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17. Well, there's always Texas Tech.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:58 PM
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26. I don't think the Bobby Knight golden parachute is available this time around
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 10:58 PM by fishwax
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:47 PM
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18. Paterno enabled Sandusky's child raping
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:52 PM
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22. Concealing the act or shielding the molester is equally a crime, IMO
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:05 PM
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29. In the real world, he'd be facing accessory charges.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 11:06 PM by rocktivity
Or think about how the university would have reacted if a STUDENT had seen another student raping an ten-year old on campus property and not!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:51 PM
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21. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 10:59 PM by rocktivity
How gallant of him to offer to retire at the end of the season. But I have hoped that -- that the board of trustees would decide to put the victims first (for a change) -- and I guess that they did.

:woohoo:
rocktivity
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:56 PM
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24. lesson learned people. you know someone is fucking a kid... DO SOMETHING. nt
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:02 PM
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28. Paterno would have been deemed a real hero if he decided to crack
him in the head with a Penn State issued bat and then call in the police. As it stands, he took the chicken-shit Republican way out.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:41 PM
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35. I agree with you. Or, he could have even said "my dear friend needs help, etc., etc.
I had to act to help protect children and to get him the help he needs..."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:09 AM
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46. yup. nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:57 PM
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25. Be still, my heart!
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 11:32 PM by rocktivity
But when you say he was fired, do you mean that he was "fired," or do you mean that he was "FIRED fired," or do you mean that he was actually REALLY fired?

:crazy:
rocktivity
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:20 PM
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31. Good. No way he should have been allowed back on the field...
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bottomofthehill Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:23 PM
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32. Dignity and determination
now that he is gon his players can at least finist the season with out having him around as a distraction
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:35 PM
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33. The president of the University was also fired
Both effective immediately. Trustees made the right move.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:42 PM
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37. Oh, don't for one moment think that most (all?) of those trustees didn't also know
The Athletic department is a cash cow. The President of Penn State is the fundraiser in chief. The Trustees are only interested in the money. Most if not all of them knew about this. No way did this type of scandal get tamped down to just the Presidential level. The big money at a university like Penn State absolutely knew about Sandusky and that includes more than a few of those trustees.

All of those trustees need to go next imho
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:27 AM
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43. What about those kids' dignity?
:puke:
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:33 AM
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47. This is one of those times I don't get DU.
When Michael Jackson, known pedophile, died, people were posting tribute threads. When Joe Paterno, idiot who abetted a pedophile, gets fired, people stand up and cheer.
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