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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:54 AM
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The republican debate crowds are really bizarre
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:59 AM by lunatica
They cheer the high death penalty executions in Texas. They boo the gay soldier who puts his life on the line to fight wars for them. They shout out and wildly clap that people who are sick should die rather than get medical help if they don't have health insurance. And they boo any criticism of Cain's sexist actions of pushing an unwilling woman's head down to his crotch while shoving his hand up her dress.

All these people are worthy of death or punishment in their eyes and the idea of seeing people die and humiliated gives them pleasure. If it weren't right there for all of us to see it would be hard to believe.




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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:57 AM
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1. And we've seen in history what happens to nations when people such as this
seize control of a nation.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:01 AM
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4. That is the scary part
Being sadistic in their hearts is their problem, but them getting control of government is ours.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:58 AM
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2. They are...
aliens from another planet.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:01 AM
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3. They are the proverbial crazy enabling elephant in the room.
These audience responses are turning off sane voters as much as the candidates answers.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:08 AM
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5. And it's the same type of people no matter where they debate
It's as if their audience travels with them, except they don't. These are all different audiences.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:11 AM
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6. republican crowds are really bizarre
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:33 AM
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7. In the olden days, these same people would have been cheering for the lions.
I was really surprised at their reaction/support to Cain, last night. If they believe these women are exposing themselves to the public for ridicule, just for the fun of it, they are sick. Cain is a con.
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:44 AM
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8. They are the Upside-Down People...
Everything they "think" and "believe" is upside-down to reality.
I blame Jeebus and the TV machine.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:54 AM
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9. The emperor promises spectacle, and the crowds come. n/t
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:02 PM
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10. I have 2 generic answers when repugs throw a talking point my way.
"Wow, republicans sure love killing people." or "Wow, republicans sure are gullible." Those 2 work in most cases if I don't feel like engaging.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:06 PM
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11. Saying something to make them look like they're being used sometimes helps too
Something like, "If you believe that you're being snowed."

You're right. If there's one thing that gets them where it hurts it's to question their ability to discern truth. Using the word gullible is perfect.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:43 PM
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14. The next level of engagement is usually
"If you believe that, you must believe a)that 'trickle down' is a viable economic principal" or b)"the Laffer Curve is economic reality."
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Occupy_2012 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:40 PM
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12. It's the rise of facism.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 12:54 PM by Occupy_2012
There's another set of threads here somewhere about the Duggars and their 20 children. Most of the posts were about how Mrs. Duggar is sick, crazy, addicted to babies or whatever. I researched the "Quiverful" cult (it's a cult, people), and found that we really have no idea at all what Mrs. Duggar thinks about any of this, becasue she's been brainwashed since birth to think she is not allowed to say one single word that disagrees with her husband. For all we know, she hates kids and wishes they'd all drop dead, that's how totalitarian her religion is.

Sadly, her husband doesn't have much more freedom. Their religion teaches that whenever a couple has a problem, they don't settle it amongst themselves, they haul in the church elders to tell them what to do. Every single argument if "necessary." They are all home-schooled to reinforce this totalitarian "no choices" belief.

I've been checking out Dominionism and FDLS (Fundamentalist, polygamous Mormon offshoot). Also home-schooled and isolated. I don't know when this home-schooling stuff started, but now there's badly educated home-schooled parents "quoting" the Bible, saying God doesn't value education and parents shouldn't worry about educating children, they should make missionaries out of them and tell them to reproduce as much as possible. These barely educated parents are doing a half-assed job of educating kids who will do an even worse job of educating their kids. Many have such extreme religious beliefs that it won't be long before girls aren't taught to read. They are already taught that God doesn't want them to vote, go to college, or own property. Education is "wasted" on women because they are just going to have litters of babies anyway. Some have been told women aren't allowed to have lawyers, and to them, divorce is a ticket straight to hell.

They appear to know nothing about actual risks of childbirth, are lied to and told etopic pregnancies may be safe (no), and told if they can't carry a baby to term it's their fault, so they have no right to "murder" a baby for their own failure, even to save their own lives. It's in the Bible (not).

People are extremely underestimating the danger of tens of thousands, if not millions, of education-hating Fundamentalists voting, running for office, and as we've seen, acting like an angry mob.

Everything about these religions teaches anger intolerance and violence. From approving of beating your wives and kids, to "breaking the spirit" of children and even pets by beating them into submission, to "submissive" wives being the only kind that aren't going to hell. They are teaching people to be obedient and unquestioning, and robbing them of any opportunity to know another point of view. They are even taught marrying a man of different beliefs condemns the entire family to hell since the husband and father's virtue determines whether the wife and children will go to heaven. Marriage is described as an act of "violence in a velvet glove," a potential wife as a "foe," and getting a woman and her family to agree to marriage as a "war" that separates a woman from all family, friends and even her dog.

People always ask, how did the Nazis rise to power? By having an ignorant, UNQUESTIONING, intolerant mob for a population. These mob audiences at the debates should scare you even more than the candidates. They have been trained for generations to be capable of believing anything, as long as it's wrapped in the cloak of "Christianity." I fear there's a tipping point coming not very far down the road.

We need to stop home-schooling if we want to save our democracy, and force these people's children to get some exposure to other points of view. Sorry, sane home-schoolers, but it's not all about you.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:44 PM
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13. Weird crowd, weird candidates
There's a talking head on msnbc saying that the Republican primary is starting to look like a Star Trek convention, it's so bizarre.
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