I don't understand the argument that Penn State should forfeit the rest of their games this season.

I've seen this idea brought up more than once, but I don't get it, because it seems that it punishes the players way more than the coach, who is not even the coach anymore because he's being dealt with directly now. I think the players have worked pretty hard to get to where they are and shouldn't have to pay for the wrongdoing of the coaching staff unless it's an unfortunate indirect necessary consequence of directly punishing or removing the staff that is responsible.

I also agree with other people on a lot of things that I just don't post about because other people are better at it; I don't like to post too much that's not original, and that is often when I disagree with a lot of people.

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I'd love to see that. Usually when I read Boojatta I feel like I've been pitched a curve ball by a rogue philosopher. Always interesting angles though.

They are not involved in this and should not have their futures devastated--simply for representing Penn State. That said, I do think the NCAA should be at least considering whether there are more appropriate punitive steps to be taken towards the program and its administration. This is too serious a debacle to fail to send a message to other schools and other programs.

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And it could be that so many people get punished that there's no longer a viable team, and that would be too bad for the remaining players, but it's not a blanket forfeiture of the rest of the season so much as an unfortunate circumstance.

The consequences of their terrible decision should affect everyone. The players are collateral damage.

It's a criminal investigation. I don't believe this involves the players receiving disallowed benefits or anything.

and criminal negligence. And no, it's not fair to the players. But that's the way it is.

the accused have all been identified and fired or suspended, but if that's going to happen, I'd rather have it happen with as much consideration for the innocent people who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time as possible.

please provide link if so.

Firing the top culprits is pretty damn good.

Drew Sharp had a huge article yesterday calling for them to forfeit their next game. Why a Detroit market writer thinks it's his business to dictate such things is beyond me, but he's kind of like that.

Did a Google search and only came up with a few links:

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2553195/penn-state-coaches-players-meeting-wear-white-joe-paterno-support

http://ant.ag/2011/11/penn-state-scandal-coaches-ask-players-to-wear-white-to-support-joe-paterno/

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-team-wear-white-support-paterno/#.Trx8AGCmIUA

...the transgression of authorities set over them.

However, I think that the rioting in support of a football coach who enabled crime of this nature and on this scale is the ultimate evidence (atop voluminous other, penultimate evidences) that college football neither promotes the primary function of an educational institution: TO EDUCATE; nor promotes the development of moral character, sportsmanship, and appreciation for fair play that might be the only remaining shred of an argument for its existence.

Kindly do not respond with arguments about how higher education institutions REQUIRE football programs because they can't SURVIVE without the money they bring in. I regard that as an argument in favor of my point of view and an illustration of exactly how far off the track college athletics have gone and how destructive they have become.

It is time to create "minor leagues" for major big-money sports, and eliminate big-money scholarship programs and corrupt intermural athletic authorities that do little or nothing to keep college athletics focused on the goals of education and character development.

Shutting down the football program at Penn State would be a fine start.

earnestly,
Bright

Teams forfeit games for two reasons. Either they cannot field a team (not gonna happen with Penn State), or they prove corruption. (doping, steroids, game-fixing, pay-offs, etc) ALSO not gonna happen here.

I have nothing but contempt for Paterno and Sandusky (and anyone else who helped cover-up this obscene child rape).

I have nothing but disgust for the Penn students who rioted last night, because they thought football was more important than the welfare of a child.

But there is absolutely nothing here that would indicate throwing a game, or buying players, or steroids. Most of the players, most of the coaches had no knowledge, and worked their asses off for what had been one of the biggest and best football franchises in college history.

They do not deserve to be punished because they didn't know.

They do know now, however, and unless Penn State players start coming out to condemn this, I hope they never see a single dime of that pro contract they were willing to sell their soul for.

But forfeiting the remaining games? Nah.

to end the football season, continue cleaning house, and start anew next year. As far as the players, it may not be fair to them, but much in life is not fair. It is only the last few games and it may be kinder to them to take the focus off and let them settle as well.

As an alumnus of a big football school I can tell you I think I'd want the Trustees to be focused on taking the institution forward - which is going to take a lot of work on their part. But I'm willing to listen to other opinions of course, there may be career ramifications for the other players, I can understand that.

current team did wrong. So why should they suffer? Fire the coaches and get new ones.

and refuse to play for Penn due to their criminal and moral behavior for 13 yrs. Penn should lose its football program.It is the end of a term. Transfers over xmas break are possible.

What a travesty it would be to have a class of students "the players" miss out on their studious endeavors.

The sharks smell blood and are in a mindless feeding frenzy. It stems from the same lack of reason that condemns the entire Penn State student body for being upset that a good man whom they care about has been scapegoated in the interest of preserving an image of the institution.