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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:24 AM
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Why meat from a petri dish is still a long way from the supermarket (not in my lifetime)
On Friday, Reuters ran a story about a Dutch scientist who is attempting to make the first synthetic animal meat, starting with nothing more than stem cells. In it, the reporter focused on some of the grim numbers that make our current trajectory of livestock-based agriculture unsustainable, and suggested that the economics of meat from a tissue culture dish would eventually cause it to win out. But that eventually might be a long way away, as the first burger-sized samples of artificial meat are estimated to cost about a quarter of a million euros.

Can artificial meat's price eventually come down? Absolutely. But there are a lot of technical hurdles that will need to be cleared out of the way first, and some of them might not be all that easy to clear.

Reuters' story doesn't spend much time on the current costs, but goes on at length about a somewhat related issue: the taste. Right now, the artificial meat consists of little more than muscle tissue grown from stem cells. An actual piece of meat is substantially more complex, as the muscle fibers have integrated into a coherent tissue and built up through use. Associated tissues, like blood and fat, also contribute to taste, appearance, and texture.

It might be possible to overcome these hurdles. Stem cells for blood and fat have been identified, and culturing them and getting them to differentiate into mature tissues is probably not much more complex than getting muscle fibers to grow in a dish. But this comes back to cost: getting any cells to grow into mature tissues is ferociously expensive, and adding additional cell types will increase the complexity and cost.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/11/why-meat-from-a-petri-dish-is-still-a-long-way-from-the-supermarket.ars
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:30 AM
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1. That's the GOP's best hope for producing a sane candidate.
just sayin'.......
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:31 AM
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2. I beg your pardon... I never promised you a meat garden.
#SongsFromTheFuture


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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:33 AM
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3. The fast food industry would love it - what they serve hardly qualifies for "meat" anyway.
I've been vegetarian for over 20 years so I don't give a shit other than the possibility that the availability of synthetic meat will reduce the torture of animals, environmental devastation, and other impacts of the dairy/pork/bird industry. The main consumers of the so called "meat" probably won't notice the difference - McRibs? McLobster? Both are real, but who knows what the fuck is in them. Gross shit, that.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:33 AM
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4. Mc anything isn't real meat.......
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:36 AM
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6. Yeah, but I knew that when I was eating it. Cram.
:puke:

McFood is a sad thing, and I consider all fast food chains to fall into the McFood category. Stuff people with fat at a high price for the crap they're serving but a price that seems like a bargain for those who consume it. I think the same goes for WalMart.

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:36 AM
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5. I think they will succeed with making food from hydrocarbons first.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:48 AM
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7. You have to start somewhere... n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:00 AM
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8. 1/4 million euros? that better be one hell of a burger. nt
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:58 AM
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9. Maybe they can make it taste like long pig
As long as you've got the freedom, why not go for the gusto?
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