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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:39 PM
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Without large U.S. force after 2014, Afghanistan is headed for civil war, opposition leader warns
Without large U.S. force after 2014, Afghanistan is headed for civil war, opposition leader warns

Afghanistan will likely plunge into civil and regional war if the United States does not leave a residual force of 20,000 to 30,000 troops in the country after 2014, along with significant economic aid, a senior Afghan opposition figure said Thursday.

“The state will disintegrate” and Afghan security forces will break into factions, said Mohammad Hanif Atmar, a former minister in the government of President Hamid Karzai. “It is the perfect scenario for a proxy-led civil war” among regional players including Pakistan and Iran.”

A “significant part” of Afghanistan, he said, would be “controlled by insurgents.”

Karzai fired Atmar as interior minister in 2010, ostensibly for security lapses that allowed insurgents to attack a loya jirga, or nationwide assembly, being held in Kabul. Speculation over his departure at the time centered on Atmar’s skepticism about government plans to open peace talks with the Taliban.

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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:43 PM
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1. Well cry me a river, and let them have there civil war. Somebody should
force Bush/Cheney etal to anti up to higher a private force to remain, since it was their war.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:05 PM
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7. I am sure there are some Cheney Bush larva that could be used to stabilize the area
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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:26 PM
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8. Their war really didn't have much to do with it other than pissing away $$ and troops.
The situation existed before we went there and it will exist again the minute we leave. A-stan is one of those places that western means and ideas will never be able to fix. The minute the Soviets left, they started killing each other again. And so it goes on.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:45 PM
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9. I agree with u, and I also think that the reason that Bush went there in
first place, a BS run around attacking Iraq. GW had one reason, and one reason alone for going into Iraq. He wanted to get the guy that had threatened his daddy. Now Cheney had oil on his mind and that to me was the reason for an attack on Iraq.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:43 PM
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2. while that's most likely true, doesn't mean we have to stay forever.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:44 PM
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3. Bad situation all around.
We need to do something bold.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:44 PM
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4. isn't that a really good reason to start exiting the country now?
I don't think its a good idea to keep our troops in a country in the middle of a coming civil war. Not very smart IMHO.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:47 PM
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5. The draft is going to have to come back if we keep up this warrior nation crap. n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:55 PM
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6. during what decade the past 5000 years has there NOT been a civil war there? nt
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PragmaticLiberal Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:55 PM
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10. And unfortunately, he's correct.....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 12:29 AM
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11. It already a civil war. And, we've only helped to prolong it.
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