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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:03 AM
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Introducing the LRAD Sound Cannon
Introducing the LRAD Sound Cannon

By Max Blumenthal, Al-Akhbar English
18 November 11

Tested on Palestinians, perfected on #OWS protesters: Introducing the LRAD Sound Cannon.

Yesterday, the New York Police Department deployed a strange new weapon against the tens of thousands of demonstrators who converged downtown for the largest protest in Occupy Wall Street's two month history: the LRAD sound cannon. NYPD officers reportedly blasted Occupy protesters with rays from the LRAD cannon while they sang the American national anthem near Lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park (photos here), establishing an atmosphere of fear and intimidation that lasted throughout the evening.

Designed and manufactured by the San Diego-based LRAD Corporation, which was formerly known as the American Technology Corporation, the Long Range Acoustic Device sound weapon is the latest innovation in crowd suppression technology. It is portable and powerful, capable of transmitting a focused ray of 140 decibels of sound at a crowd of people, generating painful cranial vibrations so profound ear plugs become useless. According to LRAD promotional material, the sonic weapon "provides military personnel with a powerful, penetrating warning tone that can be followed by clear voice broadcasts in host nation languages to warn and shape the behavior of potential threats."

In June, LRAD sold $293,000 worth of its 100X and 500X sound canon systems to the Israeli Ministry of Defense. The contract was part of Israeli Army Commander Maj. Gen. Avi Mizrahi's investment in $35 million in suppression systems in anticipation of widespread unrest in the occupied West Bank that was to have been prompted by the Palestinian Authority's statehood bid at the United Nations.

more: http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/328-121/8476-introducing-the-lrad-sound-cannon
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:09 AM
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1. I really dislike this and would like to wish it into the corn field.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:20 AM
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2. Holy F*ck.
How did it work, I wonder.

Using it on people?

"As the blogger Ayesha Kazmi recently wrote to Occupy movement participants, "So welcome to the War on Terror. Your first lesson, if your views happen to counter the established narrative, expect to be dehumanised, then treated like a terrorist."
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:32 AM
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3. Liberate one and point it up at the buildings
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:34 AM
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4. the goons of the one percent and the political ruling class nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:34 AM
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5. Pittsburgh 2009 G20
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:22 AM
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7. Thanks for posting these links
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 03:23 AM by slay
this thing should be made illegal to use in the USA immediately. the fact that that is not happening speaks volumes about what our government REALLY thinks of us.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:09 PM
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20. Welcome, Slay. There is nothing vague
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 01:10 PM by chill_wind
about their use in Pittsburgh, as the youtube shows. There are a couple more out there of that as well.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:38 AM
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6. Don't use that, OWS will retaliate and just stop
traffic in its tracks.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:55 AM
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8. 140 decibels?
Yeah that's enough to permanently damage your hearing, even with a short exposure. It's like a gunshot going off right next to your ear. All part of the "non lethal" weaponry right? OWS people might want to start handing out gun range ear muffs if they're going to be using this fucking thing against them.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:16 AM
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13. Even those mickey-mouse earmuffs are useless
It causes your whole fucking head to resonate. Perhaps some sort of sound-absorbing foam 'ski mask' would work?
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:27 PM
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34. could the high-tech people....
....create an equally loud computer controlled sampling device designed to cancel-out the offending audio frequency(s)?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:10 AM
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9. I can't find anyother report...
...besides RT (which had no images of its use) that it was employed. I don't doubt that it was there: http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/lrad-explains-sound-cannon-use-at-occupy-wall-street.php - just that it was used to drown out protestors singing the Star-Spangled Banner yesterday. If anyone has a credible source with first hand reports of this incident I'd accept it as fact.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:18 AM
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10. Here's one: "LRAD Defends ‘Sound Cannon’ Use At Occupy Wall Street"
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 04:25 AM by slay
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:40 AM
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11. Did you not read my full post?
I saw that one because I checked DU too. The company that manufactures the device is defending its distribution. There is nothing in that article that says it was actually used yesterday as a sound cannon in either that report, the one from RT, and your OP which I suspect is echoing the RT crawl without anyone actually saying it was used. RT seems to have a really bad habit of just making shit up. They report bullshit propaganda. Their report on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AA9jJMDBAQ

Kathryn Stoner-Weiss, deputy director of the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law at Stanford University's Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, said the network's target audience appears to be second- and third-generation members of the Russian diaspora in the United States and abroad, along with foreign investors and international media. "It's clearly a pro-Russian perspective; that's the purpose of Russia Today," she said. "Sometimes, a pro-Russia perspective involves an anti-somebody-else perspective — and we're the most useful target at certain times."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/fall/from-russia-with-love
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:10 AM
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12. Well at this point I'm wishing I hadn't. I found that on google - not DU
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 05:13 AM by slay
i don't know what your problem is but you're quite rude. would you like to deny that they hauled it out? whatever. i'm putting you on ignore - go do your own research. take your issues with RT somewhere else. take it up with the reporter or something - not out on me. goodbye.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:28 AM
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14. I'm saying they didn't use it yesterday.
I wasn't rude at all. I posted a link that questioned your OP account and demonstrated I had done my research on the claim. You don't like it and so you put me on ignore. I think my taking issue with a report that no one else could confirm is an entirely valid question. I think it's frankly rude to post demonstratively false news and expect no one to question it.

I apologize if you don't appreciate my brusk application of my journalistic training to public postings - I quite obviously posted and summarized what you posted in response. You didn't read my post. That's the just plain obvious.

I would be perfectly happy to condemn its use should they try to use it again - which the Pittsburgh Police Department did in 2009.

Maybe it's better we don't see each other since you seem to be repulsed by facts - and I try to deal in them.

Goodbye :hi:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:39 AM
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15. Furthermore in 2004: The NYPD stated they would only use it to give orders to disperse.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 05:39 AM by ellisonz
And not as a weapon...

RNC to Feature Unusual Forms of Sound
By Amanda Onion
Aug. 25, 2004

The NYPD, however, has said they won't be using the $35,000 tool to make people's ears ring, but only as a communication device.

"We're only going to use them for safety announcements and directions," said Paul Browne, a police spokesman.

In tests, police have shown how they can convey orders in a normal voice to someone as far as four blocks away. The sound beam is even equipped with a viewfinder so the operator can precisely target the audio by finding a person in cross hairs. Rather than using pure volume to throw sound far, the LRAD reaches distant ears by focusing the audio beam.

This is the second time the device has been used by police — Miami police also used it during the free-trade conference in that city last year.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=99472&page=1#.TseESuZycaA
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:19 AM
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16. Yes, you were rude - and it was used
your vendetta against RT is out of place here - sources were listed - you're free to ignore them or say they don't live up to your high and mighty standard - whatever. your attitude is cocky and obnoxious.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:16 PM
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21. My standard being: not absolutely making claims up to meet an agenda.
I can't vouch for the rest of the article - but the idea they used it against protestors singing the national anthem is offensive and false. :)
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:11 PM
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32. The idea that they HAVE it at protests is OFFENSIVE to say
the least, and NOT false.

Why do civilian police have these military weapons? Do YOU know, because since it was first reported at Oakland and I reported in one of my OPS as I watched the events there and a livestream reporter stated, with shock, that they believed the police were using one there.

Also reported in NY on Twitter by a protester who got a photo of the police setting it up. See photo:



Photo of Sound Cannon:



NYPD Using LRAD Sound Cannons Against Protesters

Twitter user Joshua Paul snapped the accompanying photo, which seems to match the LRAD 100X model, and writes: "High pitched noise. Natural reaction: My face scrunched and hands started moving to my ears. Length was around 5 seconds


As I said, credible reporters from Oakland also saw these military 'non-lethal' weapons during the brutal attacks by the police there the night they nearly killed Scott Olsen.

Not to mention the fact that the Military is now 'deploying' units to the 'Homeland' armed with 'non-lethal' weapons to handle 'civil unrest'.

So I'm not sure what your point is, this is a disgrace and thankfully at last, more and more people are learning just how far this government has gotten out of control. Thanks to this movement, maybe something can be done about it, if it is not already too late.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:23 AM
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17. In this case, "rude" means "showed that I was wrong"...nt
Sid
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:17 PM
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22. Seriously...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:33 AM
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:53 PM
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25. LMAO...nt
Sid
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:40 AM
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19. Can't one use simple methods to defend against this?
Like military grade earplugs, or just a flat solid object to reflect the sound back?
Once the masses find this out, this will be a very expensive albatross that law enforcement/military have "invested" in.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:24 PM
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23. colonialism is PRACTICE, not just for techniques and technologies, but for lowering
compunctions about wailing on one's fellow citizens
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:17 PM
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24. We are being incrementally conditioned
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 03:18 PM by chill_wind
with the threats of intimidation on display (and the unmistakable examples as deployed in Pittsburgh). Quibbling about intent here seems to be part of the conditioning process some seem willing to help participate in.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:20 PM
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27. Increments, those are the dangerous, not really noticeable steps into trouble.
Brrr....thankfully we are waking up and resisting.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:13 PM
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26. Here's another 2009 video
doing crowd control in Pittsburgh with the jackboots advancing along side the unit. (see the last couple minutes to hear them commanding the protesters). Very sinister shit.

LRAD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bX7gIim2dug

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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:41 PM
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28. YA KNOW...
Someone in the comments section on youtube mentioned that Water Cannons were used in the 1960's against protesters. I Bet a water cannon would be affective against this thing. I wonder how water tight those electronics are?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:50 PM
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29. Water immersion demo
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:56 PM
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30. Guess that answers that..
eom.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:01 PM
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31. They're way ahead of us :-(
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:16 PM
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33. Well if you can't use water...
There is always oil and fire... :P (KIDDING!!)
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:36 PM
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35. LRAD already beaten
Hey if you can afford it why not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCPhNg_t9ZE
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:08 PM
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36. Hitler used similar technology
to disperse protesters. If my memory serves correctly, it was a subsonic frequency of 16 or 17 hz which causes the human sphincter muscle to relax. A shitty mess ensued.
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