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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 10:58 AM Original message |
(((PIC))) Shepard Fairey Upgrades the Obama Hope Poster |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Guy Fawkes masks are stupid.... |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Pop culture. nt |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. it's not really supposed to represent the historic Guy Fawkes anyway |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Then why use it |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. 'V for Vendetta'. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. You mean comic status |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. +1 |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. It's ok if you don't 'get it'. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. No you don't get it. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I find the symbolism easy to grasp, but intellect varies greatly from person to person. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yeah, some people paid attention in history, some didn't. n/t |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. It's a widely recognized, accessible symbol from a recent and relatively well known movie. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. V for Vendetta is a great film |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. of course you don't |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I like Warner Bros... |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. dumbfucks who wear shoes are funding |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. but ya know, dipsy, the mask has taken on new meaning for us now. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I just don't understand the rationale |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. No, it's far from comic status. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Then what exactly is it suppose to represent? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It was used in 'V for Vendetta'. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. So a misrepresentation from a comic book and movie.... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Tell me about the symbolism you used |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
85. Oh, snap.... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. AFAIK it's not the symbol for OWS... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Or maybe, something intended to 'confuse' |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. An idea |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. What idea? n/t |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The pic shows the "I am Spartacus" moment |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. A theocrat is a bizarre choice for that. n/t |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sometimes iconic symbols transcend their origins... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I've seen the movie, read the comic book.... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. So? I look at the swastika and think of the peaceful Native American tribes who originally... |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Its actually Hindu. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And native American... you got the point though |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The only point I was making |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Actually you are also wrong about that, it popped up separately in a number of ancient cultures |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
84. This is true. The broken cross was Latvian long before the swastika. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. end or argument right there |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. So who exactly is offended by Guy Fawkes? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Several people on this thread. Try to keep up. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Several offended DUers is business as usual... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. When did I ever say it was an offensive image?? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Okay...maybe I misread your reference |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. All I was saying was that symbols can change meaning pretty drastically over time. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Talking about changes in meaning... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Hey, good catch. Apparently the disgruntled posters on this thread need to stop using... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. No. Guy Fawkes was literally a theocrat. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. _ |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. I don't really think invention really contributes anything |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Not the name "Guy", the meaning of the word "guy". Here's a link to an etymology website: |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Its the difference between a common noun and an actual name. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. The noun "guy" is derived from the name "Guy". "Guy" did not mean "guy" (man) |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Seems to me it's come to represent solidarity, that there are no particular leaders |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Yeah, those are not Guy masks as such they are the mask worn |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. +10 |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. BlueNorthwest, I knew you'd explain it well |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. To me the ironic choice is a subtle threat -- any one showing |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Agreed. This is much more relevant: |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
91. +1 |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Congratulations for being first in with an irrelevant attack/distraction. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. It represents "V for Vendetta" |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. I already know it. Now you read a history book. n/t |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. Mrs Agent Mike? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's clear what side Obama is on and any hope is clearly misplaced - hence the OWS. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Hope? That and about $25,000 will get you bailed out of Homelander custody. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yes, the slogan should be "Occupy" or "Protest" |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. Agree! I done lost my 'Hope'. ;) n/t |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
18. Thanks for including the big version and sources! :) |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
25. All out of hope for that, sorry. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
26. I like it!!! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. I see he has come around too |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
42. Excellent. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. Warner Brothers |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
44. It's like Robin Hood... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. Great Poster !!! - Bookmarking - K & R !!! |
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aletier_v (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
59. OWS Creativity |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
94. Really. That and its sense of humor is off the charts. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. Kinda like the revolutionaries "hoping" that King George III would join them. |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
87. +1 |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. It's obvious that those with their lips so close to the President's ass... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Is it possible |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Yes, it's possible... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Good to know |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #74 |
88. um, that would be a *big* yes. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. Oh snap! nt |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
78. I like it. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
79. k&r |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
82. Occupy didnt happen under Bush because many thought that electing a Democrat |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
83. k&r |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
86. obama is no ally of ows. banks are his masters. |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
89. Guy Fawkes, OMG! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
90. I like the fact that it's been redone, but goddamn I am tired of seeing that fucking mask. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. +1 |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
95. Kudos to Shepard |
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