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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:42 PM
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Elsewhere on DU, someone just asked why they should support President Obama.
One person replied the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I added the following.

And ending the Iraq War. Beginning the pullout from Afghanistan. $20 billion more for food stamps.
$4 billion more for healthy school lunches. Free preventative care. The banning of pre-existing conditions. The banning of rescission. The elimination of lifetime limits on insurance coverage. $10 billion dollar investment in community health centers. $33 billion in SCHIP expansion. $60 billion for renewable energy. The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Eliminating the Medicare prescription drug gap. Requiring every hospital receiving Medicare or Medicaid funds--virtually every hospital in the country--to provide full visitation rights for same sex partners. Banned job discrimination based on gender identity throughout the Federal government. Extended the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover Gay employees taking unpaid leave to care for their children of same-sex partners. Extended unemployment benefits for 7 million Americans. Trimming $78 billion from the DOD budget. And negotiating the new START treaty to reduce and dismantle nuclear weapons.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:44 PM
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2. You forgot one of the most important ones, to me.
He sacked OBL.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:49 PM
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5. That's why?
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 01:02 PM by tblue
He can't kill him again.

Never mind. I don't want to put down your support for our president. I just can't drum up the enthusiasm, and you can't change that any more than I can change you.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:51 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but the OP says why we should support Obama
NOT why we voted for him. Keep trying.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:51 PM
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8. Huh? You didn't vote for Obama until AFTER OBL was killed? Did I miss the election?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:04 PM
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13. Haha!
I didn't vote for him to kill anybody. And I won't vote for him just because he killed someone.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:09 PM
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14. Oh -- got it. nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:39 PM
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39. But it wasn't just any old body.
I voted for him hoping he would get OBL...and he did.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:02 PM
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45. I voted for him hoping he'd do things right like Bush never did.
And getting rid of Bin Laden was one big sign he's doing exactly that.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:07 PM
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49. It really bothered me that Bush didn't make any effort to get OBL.
You know those must have been some sleepless nights, before the POTUS gave the order to start the operation. It is a huge accomplishment, not even the Russians could get OBL and that was their downfall in Afghanistan.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:27 PM
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24. the posts I've seen were about money. I won't give him one thin
dime. Wall street will take care of his billion dollar problem. I will hold my nose and vote for him but I can't afford a penny and neither can just about anyone else. Nice try though.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:40 PM
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28. In case you hadn't noticed, Wall Street hates Obama's guts for re-regulating them.
They're giving their money to their fellow financial industry man, Romney.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:18 PM
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31. Wall Street isn't reregulated.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:23 PM
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34. You might want to look up Dodd-Frank.
It's the Wall Street reform bill that they spent a large fortune screaming bloody murder to try and defeat. Plenty of room left to go, but it's a big step in the right direction.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:12 PM
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46. That thing you've been watching with the puppets
is kabuki theater. It isn't real.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:36 PM
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38. You're actually both right
Dodd-Frank was a sorry excuse for regulation and Wall Street still hates it enough that they're actually mad at Obama for it.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:40 PM
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40. Do you want to pronounce Wall Street re-regulated
like the poster above did?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:39 PM
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61. No I don't, as I said it's a sorry excuse for a regulatory bill...
Especially given how much Wall Street screwed over the rest of us.

My point was that all of these stories you read about how Wall Street executives are mad at Obama because they think Dodd-Frank is an undue burden on their industry, are also true. These people live in a world so far from reality that they think they did absolutely nothing wrong.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:10 PM
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47. Not covering everything isn't the same thing as a "sorry excuse."
The Dodd-Frank bill went a long way towards restoring some of the critical rules to prevent large Wall Street meltdowns.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:41 PM
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41. I feel sorry for the POTUS sometimes.
He has done everything, but rollover and play dead for Wall Street...and they stabbed him in the back first chance they got! THEN idiots like Glenn Beck call him a marxist or fascist like Hitler and it makes my head hurt. THEN people come along and blame him for things only CONGRESS can do!

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:56 PM
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44. Odd, the pubs say the same thing about Obama and Wall St.
<..> Boehner spokesman Michael Steel declined to comment on the memo. But he responded to its characterization of Republicans as defenders of Wall Street by saying, “My understanding is that President Obama is the single largest recipient of donations from Wall Street.”

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/19/8884405-lobbying-firms-memo-spells-out-plan-to-undermine-occupy-wall-street#.TsfDU8Nn8DY.twitter

It's not true, as has been shown many times. Why is this still showing up here?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:46 PM
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3. K & R
:thumbsup:
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:48 PM
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4. K&R! eom
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:50 PM
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6. Thank you for expounding on my response. The poster asked
for one reason, I have him/her one reason that nobody could find fault with.

Obama's done a LOT yet people don't seem to want to give him credit for it -- or they're not "important" enough, or something.

I'm one of the ones who doesn't like his choice of Geithner, who questions plenty of his actions, not a doe-eyed devotee. But I totally acknowledge and appreciate what he has done and, again, it's a LOT. Not to be dismissed. And until Johnny Depp throws his hat in the ring, Obama has my vote. :7

:hi:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:53 PM
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9. And we're at the tipping point with the Supreme Court. Ginsberg could retire at any moment.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 12:53 PM by pnwmom
With an even bigger majority, they could do damage that could last for decades.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:09 PM
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15. Damn right! nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:12 PM
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16. That alone should be good enough reason for any rational person to completely support Obama.
The prospect of another Kagan or Sotomayor on the court, versus another Alito or Scalia.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:13 PM
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18. SCOTUS justice is always a good reason. Now the repukes want to
get rid of medicare, medicaid and social security. If they get away with that, food stamps and housing assistance is next.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:59 PM
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10. k&r -
For being a positive thread - breath of fresh air.
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Quartermass Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 12:59 PM
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11. That money will not be spent on those programs, but will be spent on
politicians pet programs as they raid that money for their constituents.

Like the state lottery was meant for schools, but politicians often raid that source of money:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92595&page=1

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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:03 PM
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12. Showed up for work sober every day!
Does not appear shitfaced in public. Conduct and protocol is correct at all times.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:13 PM
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17. Is not a Republican.
Made a speech.

I could list things like breaking up Mexican families and launching drone attacks, but people see what they want to see, so why bother?

But I'm posting this below for you. Mopar151, you don't have to read the whole screed. You'll get the idea from the first couple sentences. I am typing on my phone so I can't edit properly, sorry.



http://deathbytrolley.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/is-obama-a-fauxgressive-a-fake-progressive-or-simply-a-non-progressive/

A progressive wouldn’t load up his front office with corporatists like Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel; he wouldn’t look the other way when Chief of Staff Emanuel calls progressives “retards”; he wouldn’t spend years prior to his Presidency being mentored by, of all people, Joe Lieberman – every corporatist Republican’s favourite “Independent” “Democrat”; he wouldn’t give up the public healthcare insurance option (which had massive majority support of Americans across the political spectrum, which by the way, he rarely or never mentioned) without a fight; he wouldn’t support corporatist/Republican efforts to cut Social Security, MediCare and Medicaid, three of the most popular social programs in American history; he wouldn’t continually accept Republican framing of issues and perpetually treat Republicans and “Conservative Democrats” (read: corporatist Democrats) as honest actors whom sincerely want to do what is best for America; he wouldn’t hire on the people who broke the banks to run the banks; he wouldn’t waffle and wain over Don’t Ask Don’t Tell; he wouldn’t pretend to close international CIA black sites and then turn a blind eye to those in Somalia; he wouldn’t continue and escalate Patriot Act policies; he wouldn’t pass Financial Reform that fails to put a stop to many of the most risky and system-threatening financial practices (e.g., bank over-leveraging, intermixing of depository and investment banking, continued poor regulation of derivatives trading); he wouldn’t outspend Bush on defense; he wouldn’t extend the unpopular “temporary” Bush tax cuts to the rich; he wouldn’t further lower corporate taxes; he wouldn’t continue funding Faith-Based Initiatives; he wouldn’t derisively refer to progressives like Bernie Sanders as “you progressives”; he wouldn’t escalate the fight in Afghanistan at a time when there were no more than 100 Al Qaeda operatives remaining there; he wouldn’t largely ignore and completely excuse the egregious economic mismanagement, international law debasing and civil liberties destroying practices of the previous administration and then continue the very same practices himself; he wouldn’t pretend that the Dems and Republicans are equally at fault when policy discussions come to stalemates when only the Republicans are being obstinate.

It’s  not his lack of success in advancing progressive causes that make him not a progressive. It’s his perpetual lack of effort and capitulation. There is nobility in trying and failing. There is no nobility in playing the role of the jobber in professional wrestler: the pre-determined loser of every match.
Some may say that it is unfair to call Obama a fake progressive, or a fauxgressive, because he so clearly distances himself from progressives and progressivism. But throughout his campaign he clearly accepted and embraced his broad progressive appeal, though often working to have it both ways – as being viewed as both a progressive and a centrist. One may also reasonably argue that more than being a progressive, he has billed himself as The Great Compromiser. But where is the compromise? What on earth has he gotten in the way of compromise from the Republicans, Corporatist Democrats and powerful lobby groups (e.g., Wall Street, the Chamber of Commerce, Department of Defense and the Pentagon) in the interest of not only progressives, but the American people as a whole.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
43. plus+++++++
:thumbsup:
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #17
64. These aspects are no small thing to me........
After decades of having POTUS and FLOTUS who were national embarrasments. You want to send Rick Perry to the G8 Summit? Nootie to address the Arab Leauge?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:13 PM
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19. One inarguable reason: SUPREME COURT
If you want one of those goobers in the GOP clown car appointing a couple of Clarence Thomases, you're NUTS. This will affect which way the country goes in the next 25 years more than anything else I can think of. And half of these judges are REALLY OLD.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:19 PM
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21. And Justice Ginsberg has pancreatic cancer. n/t
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:22 PM
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33. And Biden is one of the reasons we have Thomas
he had a chance to derail the nomination and he refused to let a lot of other women testify
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #33
48. OMG so because of that you want Newt or Romney to choose, instead of Obama?
That's pretty strange logic...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. could you show me where I advocated for a republican
and I did not know that Biden was the president

I have never knowing voted for a republican
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:35 PM
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51. Well what was your point exactly?
Are we more likely to get another Clarence Thomas from one of the GOP's running or from Obama? What's Biden got to do with anything then?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:48 PM
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52. You were bitching about Thomas and I was pointing out that
Thomas would not be there if Biden had done his job while he was in Congress
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:58 PM
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54. I was "bitching" about Thomas?
Welcome to my ignore list...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:07 PM
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55. If you want one of those goobers in the GOP clown car appointing a couple of Clarence Thomases
that sounds like a bitch to me
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #19
35. Clarence Thomas is actually one of the better case scenarios under a Republican POTUS.
More likely, they'd appoint somebody even much more extreme, like Scalia. Imagine a 45 year old Scalia-clone getting Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat, and making SCOTUS decisions for the next ~40 years.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #19
71. One inarguable counter-argument:
Copenhagen 2009. Ever heard of Neville Chamberlain?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:17 PM
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20. Short 2,000 word essay on why we need a Democrat in the White House
Here's a picture of Obama signing the Lilly Ledbetter act that gives women equal rights in the workplace:



Here's a picture of a Republican signing a ban on certain abortions:

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:24 PM
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22. Are you allowed to post that on DU?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
30. I'm just shocked that I'm in positive rec territory.
I actually said positive factual things about a Democrat. That's a hangin' crime around here.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. I'm alerting on the OP
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:25 PM
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23. A reluctant K&R.
While I've been bitterly disappointed that the primary problems that are destroying our nation have not been addressed, some good things have come about.

A republican president will do nothing that is good for people and will drive the country further back into the stone age.

That is the hard stone cold fact of the matter crux of the biscuit end of story.

Either we vote for the president and some good things get done, or we get another Bush era.

I'm voting according to how my common sense leads me to vote.

And there is always that slim chance that Obama will sign on to OWS after the election.
:D
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:28 PM
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25. Passed three of his four jobs bills
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Huh? Manny? Will the real MannyGoldstein please stand up..
You're confusing the hell out of me today. :rofl: You're actually saying something nice about the president?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Also, he hasn't publicly called for Society Security cuts for several weeks
He's going all 99% on us!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #29
53. Wow Manny. I'm impressed. You really can give the president credit..
once or twice a year... ;)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #53
57. Big Kahuna, I love ya
But read a bit closer. No praise from Senor Manny there...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #57
67. I saw that you said that on another thread, my sassy lassy...but
I didn't get in then, and I don't get it now. Please help me understand, Manny's hidden meaning that I'm just not getting. :D
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Okay
Here's what our pal wrote (including the typos):

"he hasn't publicly called for Society Security cuts for several weeks"

Obama has NEVER called for Social Security cuts. Everyone knows that except for the reality challenged here and in another few places. So his "praise" that Obama hasn't called for cuts for "several weeks" is simply snark. Poorly spelled snark, but snark nonetheless.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #68
72. LOL! I did catch that bit of snark. I mean...it IS Manny afterall.
Rome wasn't built in a day. :D
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. Ha!
:fistbump:
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:33 PM
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26. Cause he's better than the other choices, is all I can come up with! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:25 PM
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36. The Iraq withdrawal thingy was a treaty.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:34 PM
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37. Just like we "turned over soverignty," right?
There have been so many BS goalposts that one has to realize the Reps never meant a single one of them. Do you think with McCain in the White House, we wouldn't still be in Iraq?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:41 AM
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62. I was just stating facts as I understand them. It was to be a non interpretive post.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:47 PM
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42. Because conservatives are less immediately destructive than reactionary radical regressives
The tradeoff is they foster the build up of systematic entropy by taming the urge of the masses to throw off the oppression of the establishment.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:44 PM
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56. Aaaiiiiieeeee!!! A LIST!! My eyes... MY EYES!!!
Just thought I'd get that out of the way for anyone coming a bit later. :)

Happy to rec. Great post.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:47 PM
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58. I mod at this sight and have no opinion
:trips over tongue and falls over biting it:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #58
63. Stop Lying
:sarcasm:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:08 PM
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59. k/r
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:28 PM
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60. Two words for you: President Cain.

I don't think Obama's achievements are as impressive if analysed closely as they are in wall-of-text form, but I do think that he's been incomparably, unimagineably better than any Republican alternative.

One thing that Obama has not done is "a lot of harm".
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:56 AM
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65. Oh look! Mr Wraith has posted a new "list"
I like the unnumbered paragraph format.

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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:48 PM
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69. Right on cue!
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 06:48 PM by Number23
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:13 PM
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74. I see its all about you.
How special.

See, here's the deal.

I posted to the OP. I could not have cared less about the rest of the replies and therefore never read them.

Have a swell day. :hi:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:35 PM
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76. That's the spirit!
I could not have cared less about the rest of the replies and therefore never read them.

LOL! You NEVER read any of the replies in a thread?? EVER?? That is truly hilarious but I'll keep that in mind.

So stately. So mature. Are you upset that you might also be a bit predictable?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:43 PM
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66. Wow, other threads that call out DUers or continue a topic from a previous thread get locked...
...in a heartbeat around here. Why not this one? I guess some OPs are more equal than others.

NGU.

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:49 PM
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70. interesting, isn't it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:15 PM
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75. "We try, but we're not perfect"
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:38 PM
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77. ha!
I could not have cared less about the rest of the replies and therefore never read them.

Except for this one reply that was so fantastic, so brimming with meaning and purpose that you just HAD to respond to it, huh??

Oh Lordy. I'm done. Sometimes it is really just too easy around here.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:53 PM
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78. Look at the timeline.
By the way, why are you so obsessed with me and what I think? Do you think your little attempt at "gotcha" matters except as fodder for talk at the high school lunch table?

I'll leave the last word to you, cuz I know you'll pout and hold hold your breath otherwise.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:22 PM
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79. Rofl! So sayeth the wise sage who entered this thread
with snark and mocking nastiness towards Wraith and then got his feelings hurt when someone responded by mocking HIM!

And while it has been many years since I've seen a high school lunch table, I would bet that the number of years it's been for me would absolutely quake and tremble before the number of years it's been for you.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:40 PM
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80. wow
:crazy:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:24 AM
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82. That smiley becomes you more than any other.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:16 AM
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81. Oh, I love lists. Here a LIST that contains some links to LISTS below
Obama’s 2008 Campaign Promises Kept:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

Long partial LIST (with citation links) of what Obama has done: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html

Short List of Progressive Achievements by The Obama Administration
http://shoqvalue.com/short-list-of-progressive-achievements-by-the-obama-administration

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far)
http://obamaachievements.org/list

Obama’s LGBT Chart LIST
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x777350

Accomplishments by the Obama Administration and Congress on LGBT Equality
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality

100 Accomplishments of President Barack Obama
http://simplifythepositive.blogspot.com/2010/03/100-accomplishments-of-president-barack.html

Lists and graphs: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=751914

List: 2.8 Years in Pictures...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x772937

We All Have a Choice in the 2012 Election
http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/09/03/we-all-have-a-choice-in-the-2012-election/

So That Ignorance Won't Be The Reason Why "Progressives" Are Throwing The President Under The Bus
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/09/so-that-ignorance-wont-be-reason-why.html

80 Reasons Why It’s Time To Take These Republican/Tea Party ‘Sons Of Bitches’ Down
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/06/80-reasons-why-its-time-to-take-these-republicantea-party-sons-of-bitches-down/

Bikini Jobs Graph
http://www.democraticleader.gov/blog/?p=4478

Rachel Maddow On President Obama & Democrats Accomplishments (November 2010)
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQ-OKa6OZQ

Legislation signed by President Obama http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislation

Executive Orders signed by President Obama http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

The REAL Reason Barack Obama Won That Nobel Peace Prize
http://wrightandleftreport.com/news/the-real-reason-barack-obama-won-that-nobel-peace-prize/

Obama’s Foreign Policy Successes
http://thinkprogress.org/report/obama-foreign-policy-successes/

Enjoy :)



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