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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:09 PM
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I'm noticing the constant little news blurbs about Paterno having
cancer (curable) on just about every web site I visit. It's usually in the ad sections. Anyway, I'm wondering if this is a ploy to garner sympathy/empathy for Joe and an attempt to distract from the serious discussion of his knowledge before, during, and after the Sandusky disgraceful and sickening conduct. It's really starting to annoy, and how long has it been known that Paterno had cancer? Was that just discovered a few days after the story broke? This is being handled so poorly.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:15 PM
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1. Trying to make him a more sympathetic figure, it ain't gonna work
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:19 PM
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3. I hope not, I consider him guilty of having knowledge and doing
nothing concrete about it.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:06 PM
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19. it could also be an excuse not to testify or go to trial.
he was grand juried for eleven months. Four months ago he sold their home to his wife for a buck I think it was. He knows he could be jailed and he's setting up circumstances that will allow at the worst probation. the fucking coward. Nice going, PSU. He's a peach.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:19 PM
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2. Public relations tactic.
No doubt. The old fucker will live to be 100, if he isn't already.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:19 PM
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4. I think we've given enough time to the pedophilia in this. OWS, affects more people.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 05:20 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
I'm ready to drop the whole Paterno and pedophile thing, and leave it to the investigators. That'll be quite enough repetitious news about this same thing over and over. I'm not picking on you. I'm talking in general. There is something else at stake now: our country. Let's focus on this and stop repeating the little news that don't affect our whole nation's future.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:27 PM
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5. +1. nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:32 PM
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7. Thanks. It's dizzying how much time we dedicate to 1 criminal case, when our country...
is so incredibly f'd up. Amazes me.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:06 PM
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18. The prurient glee some get at tearing down an idol is what gets me.
You'd think Paterno had done the molesting.

What about the 20+ other people who supposedly knew about it? Ech...I've already devoted too much thought to it.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:17 PM
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20. That's true also. I'm beginning to think it's like a tabloid topic to many
And it's a waste of time, when something so important as the future of our country, is at stake.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:33 PM
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26. There's a lot more abuse victims than most people realize..
One in six boys is a victim of sexual abuse, it's even higher for girls, one in four I think
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:32 PM
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6. Start your own website
and you can tell people what to post.

On DU, not so much.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:34 PM
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9. Just saying, that this is 1 criminal case. ONE. And it's gotten more press even on DU than the
disaster our country is facing.
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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:52 PM
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15. You are right.
This maybe just 1 criminal case that is garnering so much attention...but I also think that its implications touch upon a whole silent, tormented populace about the oft shunned wide-spread subject of pedophilia and by exposing it and exploring the inner workings of what happens to so many is not something that should be ignored either.

If there is some common ground to be reckoned here...I would say that it is about shining a big, bright HUGE light into ALL these issues that many people face!

Who knows? Maybe we are finally at a time and point in our history, in this country, in this world in fact, where injustices all the way around are finally being acknowledged all the way around...and maybe it's just not something that occurs in a tidy, linear fashion!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:56 PM
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16. Yes, but it's not the major problem our country is facing. We're on the cusp of a Great Depression
I'm not saying pedophilia is not horrible, but several days that I logged into DU, most of the posts were about that one case. And we continue on. How many more weeks shall we discuss one case? That's all I'm saying. It has become one case that people are getting too much joy in talking about, like tabloid news.
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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:22 PM
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21. Joy?
Really? As far as I am concerned...talking about sexual abuse and pedophilia is not exactly a *joyous* event...in fact, FAR from it.

The simple fact that much of sexual abuse has to do with secrecy and shame and the power associated with it in keeping it 'under wraps' is exactly why so much talk about it has been shunned and I see this 1 incident as a way to finally break WIDE open those deep, psychological barriers.

Sure. It may not be a perfect world and no doubt some of this issue lends itself to salacious interpretation in the media - of course - but beyond that - at its core, I would like to think that it is more about the bigger picture here...and that is to place this normally taboo subject front and center (AMONG OTHERS) in an effort to finally offer up a long awaited and seriously overdue open dialog about it in an effort to blast through the hold...the grip...the power...it has up to now...enjoyed.

Timing on matters like this is what it is. It is occurring in conjunction with other EQUALLY important matters right along side of it. One does not necessarily cast out the other.

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:41 PM
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22. The downfall of a country is equal to ONE CASE? Uh... not exactly. nt
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:50 PM
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14. we can walk and chew gum at the same time
Frankly, the larger picture with the Penn State scandal has everything to do with with exactly what OWS is all about... power in the hands of a few in which they can do whatever the hell they want and sweep it under the carpet even looking the other way when children are being molested and protecting the powerful criminals. It's about putting the powerful on a pedestal and discovering too late that they have feet of clay and the lesson that should be learned from that.

No, we don't need to focus on one single issue here, and thankfully, we never have despite there always being a few advocates of doing so because it happens to be the one single issue THEY want to focus on while ignoring everything else of importance. NOTHING should be ignored here for the single fact that there never is ONE single important issue but MANY, and they all need to be addressed.


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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:58 PM
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17. I'm not so sure, if one case is more important than something that affects the entire nation nt
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:58 PM
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28. not one person is advocating that it's more important than anything else
You're the only one alluding to that false premise. Again, there IS no ONE single important issue, and the Penn State scandal has everything to do with what OWS is all about.

If you wish to put blinders on about everything else of importance because you want to focus entirely on one single issue, than have it. That's what people like anti-abortionists, evangelicals and other single issue voters do. If you want to be like them, that's your business. Just don't try to tell everyone else the way they do that nothing else matters but your own pet issue.

On the first page of GD the VAST majority of threads are about OWS as they have been for months, yet you take issue with this ONE thread about the Penn State scandal??? Please. It would have taken far less effort if you had just hidden this thread instead of barging in only to whine about its existence and tried to tell everyone that it isn't important because YOU have failed to recognize that everything about what happened at Penn State with this scandal is exactly what OWS is all about... and maybe that's because you've been entirely too busy ignoring other important issues other than your pet one.


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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:42 PM
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23. Well said, TorchThe Witch.
Thanks for connecting those dots!!! (It was something that I felt and alluded to but couldn't quite put into words.)

Much appreciation for your most insightful and concise post!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:31 PM
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25. Yes we can & we can connect the dots and the relationships of how all these various things connect &
What they have to do with each other.

Greed is one.... Greed that has driven the 1 % to take & take and to hell with the 99%.....in the case of Penn State, the greed of the Church of Paterno and the economic football corporation that drove it to protectig its interests over the children.
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fostercareinjustice Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:32 PM
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8. I think you're spot on. The implication is he's sick, leave him alone.
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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:36 PM
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10. I've wondered about that myself
to be honest with you. Though, based on the comments made last night on Dr. Drew (Pinsky)last night on HLN about this, he made the distinction (as an MD Internist) on it being 'treatable' which (if I remember correctly is medical code that it is not curable) - again, if I remember correctly, but in my personal experience, I have known a senior who survived lung cancer by having the one lung removed (and I can't remember if it was the right or left one...evidently - it makes a difference?)

But all that aside, yeah. To my skeptical mind kind of wonder about the timing of all this myself...which is a typical ploy? To all of a sudden shift and circumvent and distract, as you say, the attention away from the main issue.

Could very well be.

You mentioned that you see this information on just about every website that you visit...in the ad sections. That has not been my experience, which isn't to say that it isn't true...but if this indeed some kind of ploy...wouldn't these ads be better served to highlight and illustrate the damage of what these victims have been through???? You know, the ones who aren't 84 years old yet????
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:38 PM
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11. KARMA. She worked quick. NT
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:41 PM
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12. Now she needs to get those fatass cops who peppered sprayed
harmless protesters.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:42 PM
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13. if that's karma, where is Sandusky's lung cancer?
or maybe it should be penis cancer? (if there is such a thing)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:25 PM
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24. Karma is a bitch JoePa....
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 10:26 PM by Pachamama
No sympathy here....and Sandusky's karma will be meeting him in jail.....
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