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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 06:49 PM Original message |
Time Magazine Confirms What I said about Dems about to pass Massive Internet Censorship Act |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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savalez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. a REPUBLICAN introduced this bill |
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judesedit (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:48 PM Original message |
Exactly. And isn't it funny. The repugs have blocked everything.How, all of a sudden, do dems rule? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
88. I've been here for 7 years. GOP has supported this bill all along. What's new is Dems on board. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #88 |
109. *** UPDATE *** americancensorship.org wants you to press button to call your Senator today |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. I posted a new thread for calling your Senator: |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Leahy (D) introduced the senate version. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Leahy? WTF? Why would HE want to censor the internet? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
102. There are only 2 congresspeople who are on our side. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
108. Democrats are ALSO in the pocket of Hollywood. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
99. It was introduced in the Senate by Patrick Leahy |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Just to clarify, my OP is not an attack on Dems. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Imagine if Righthaven could have blackholed DU. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. They are trying to nip the 99% peaceful revolution in the bud.. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. Two words: proxy server |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That won't help the major websites where most valid fair-use content is hosted |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Could'nt you tube just create a new site |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
91. Ideal thing would be to have Youtube keep its current guidelines and host videos on user space |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. The irony is, this bill would be the equivalent of the Nuremburg book-burnings for fair use content. |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. I would think any artist that would do that |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
92. Unfortunately the copyright holder is the producers/distributors |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
104. Again, Mussolini & Hitler would have LOVED this legislation. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. According to americancensorship.org |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. So much easier when all is in a "cloud." |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yeah that's what makes me nervous about cloud computing |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. The Google ads here at DU are clearly based on my preferences |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. They don't technically read your email. |
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WildNovember (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 02:34 AM Response to Reply #54 |
75. No, but I think it means they *can* read it if they find a trigger keyword. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yep. All into spywork, All conspiring against us. |
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WildNovember (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. They won't release info for this inquiry means they don't spy on people? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. If you're downreccing this, Care to comment? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Sure. I don't generally think Time is worth a bucket of warm spit: the publication has, since its |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Google wants to downsize Youtube so thats hardly surprising. Whats surprising is that Dem'd want to. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
82. LMAO you couldn't be any more wrong. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Downsize free content I mean. So you are inside the situation on this bill? Do you support it? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. Bump for comment n/t |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
12. Sen Leahy's S. 968 was reported by Leahy from Judiciary, with an amendment in the nature of a |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Your point being? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Point: before going all knickers-knotted, people should skim the bill & read the committee report |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Sleep. Here's a couple infringing derivative copywrited works which I'll post here for your benefit. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Stopping piracy is the new For the children. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. The march to fascism is escalating. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I share your concern. nt |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. it may seem ludicrous to some, but that is precisely what MAY be going on. TPTB are pushing things |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
18. recommend |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. No - you are right |
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socialindependocrat (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
20. Gee, just like China! Did Bachmann suggest this? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. I'm full time suspicious of governmental actions |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. Same way "terrorists" justified the Patriot Act and Homeland Security... |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. My question is this |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
110. Why did she allow the Naked Scanners into our airports? |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. If Obama vetoes that bill he will be re-elected. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
96. I do hope he uses COMMON SENSE here........... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. This sentence of yours is problematic for me: |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. There are some pretty big copright viloations in this thread... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
67. The very idea that it is illegal to create a collage using someone else's art is patently absurd. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
73. It most certainly is not against the law to create derivative works. |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. Fear of 'piracy'... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. I am surprised this hasn't happened sooner. Most internet theives don't understand how to steal. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. Of course you're right. IT people all over the world are talking about |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
31. We already have copyright laws that are not only adequate but over-reaching. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. k/r |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. kick! How do we stop it? |
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FreeBillClinton (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
34. If this passes with democratic support and there's no veto, I'm done with the party forever. |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. right there with you |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
111. You won't be the only one. |
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ut oh (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. So the Repubs want the Gov't to become Righthaven??? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is a huge danger. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. If the bill passes, then Americans need to boycott the media companies. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. The 1% will use every device possible to curtail democracy. nt |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Democracy: it's what's for dinner. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. You're right many won't listen...... |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. K&R (n/t) |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Obama on Internet censorship in Egypt: |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. So he'll veto, right? |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Only if Rahm gives him the stubby finger. n/t |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
103. Hopefully the President will give the middle finger to the copyright fascists here in America too... |
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OtherSideTeam (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:30 PM Original message |
This is going to be sticky. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. solve it in a dystopian way that your worst limited nightmares cannot comprehend |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I think you've been listening to a little too much Alex Jones. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
79. I do not listen to Alex Jones, I simply keep aware of the march against privacy that keeps moving |
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OtherSideTeam (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. This is going to be sticky. |
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Wild Thing (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
48. Avaaz petition against this law |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
86. Thanks Wild Thing n/t |
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wial (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. the dems are increasingly in danger |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
50. So in essence "fair use" get strucken down from the books. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. If this law were passed, Righthaven would have beaten DU in court... |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. Welcome to 1984. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
64. What Is The Basis For the Claims About Fair Use? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. You Don't Believe In The Concept Of Fair Use? "The bill doesn't go far enough" |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. I Would Like to Know What the Bill Describes As Fair Use |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. The issue is threefold. #1 rights holders do not care about fair use, they challenge it. #2 -- |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 02:29 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Not that I don't agree with your second paragraph though - I do. |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
69. As a collage artist, I always build in layers |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Post #26 claims such art is illegal and would presumably fall under this law. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Point being, if it were being republished |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Since part of the point of my art was to use copyrighted images |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Exactly. I didn't mean to imply otherwise ;-) |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. And robs me of an audience |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Is there any other thread on this? Chance of passage etc? |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. how close is it to passing? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
78. This most likely has absolutely nothing to do with copyright protection |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Bumping for continued relevance n/t |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:36 AM Response to Reply #78 |
95. Drastic measures may be needed to save our freedoms.......... |
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Huey P. Long (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
89. recommended |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
90. bigger then a can of pepper spray, but they would never misuse it. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. Funny you should mention that... |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
97. Mussolini & Hitler would've LOVED this POS 'legislation'. |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
98. Outrage fatigue. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
100. Mueller seems to have figured it out. NT |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
101. "Intellectual Property Protection" is a trojan horse to create a police state. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
105. k&r |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
112. Interesting... |
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