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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:08 PM
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Two UC Davis police officers have been placed on administrative leave
@KCBSNews KCBS 740AM/106.9FM
Two UC Davis police officers have been placed on administrative leave following their use of pepper spray in Friday's arrest of protesters.

https://twitter.com/#!/KCBSNews/status/138311300638965761
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:12 PM
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1. Coming up next, punishment with paid vacation!
Yeah, they're really holding the pigs accountable!!!
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:17 PM
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5. What, no promotion?
Where is the bonus?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:14 PM
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18. lol. UC budget cuts.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:30 PM
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7. it's while the investigation commences
Which is pretty standard. There's always a formal investigation before the ultimate punishment (if there is one) ensues. This is how it goes when you have a union... you don't get sacked immediately because it's only fair to the worker that a decision is made only after an investigation. Should be that way for all of us.

I seriously doubt that this will be the end of it at the conclusion of the investigation especially considering that the chancellor is getting so much flack. It will also very likely fuck up their promotions if they are allowed to stay on the force... hopefully so much so that they'll never get another one in their entire career.


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isuphighyeah Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:50 PM
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15. How ironic is it that these cops
get the benefits of everything Occupy is fighting for?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:13 PM
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2. k&r..
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:14 PM
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3. I hope it's unpaid leave... so their holidays are extra miserable. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:17 PM
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4. They should be arrested for assault & battery.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:22 PM
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6. The habitual unaccountability of the police is about to hit the fan.
Who is going to arrest them? Or the next guys because is likely only the beginning.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:35 PM
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8. I've become very cynical about accountablility in this country.
Or, I should say, even more cynical.

As it stands, the protesters probably have more chance of being arrested than the thugs who assaulted them. Just as Bradley Manning sits in prison while the guys he exposed are walking free and hailed as heroes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:39 PM
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10. Agreed. There may be some Shuffling of The Deck Chairs
for a while. But this show of force stuff resulting in massive police deployment, probably on the advice of DHS, is not going to work for the localities. It won't work AND they will then be even more broke. Then what are they going to do?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:49 PM
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14. I'm hoping for civil suits with big payouts. THAT will make them think before sending in the thugs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:07 PM
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16. Anon says PoliceForum.org is down in retribution.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:17 PM
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20. Be nice if Anon will KEEP some sites down for more than a day.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:07 PM
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29. I've never sued anybody, never considered it. If one of those kids was my son, I'd be suing so fast.
I believe that there will be huge lawsuits. This happened on a college campus. People pay tuition and room and board to universities to keep their children safe, not assault them. The fact that this was the campus police is highly relevant. This didn't happen on a city street and it wasn't perpetrated by city cops. This wasn't the national guard. This was the university police force

I'm trying hard to think of other instances where university police attacked students, and I'm not coming up with any. The role of campus police is to protect students. Campus police arrest muggers and rapists who attack students. Campus police - at least up to this moment - are not known to attack students.

This is really new territory. I predict that the university president and the chief of university police will both resign by the end of the week.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:04 PM
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30. California has had other instances of UC police violence.
See the second-round People's Park demonstrations in the early 90s - the UC police were out of control there too, on UC property.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:46 PM
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13. One can only hope it does. n/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:15 PM
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19. ACLU and National Lawyer's Guild will be suing.
They are already suing Oakland.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:03 PM
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28. yes, can we citizen's arrest? This is absurd. These people are paid to uphold the law.
a paid vacation is the punishment? wait until they tell all the cops about this...

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:38 PM
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9. This is the inevitable result of
a) The trend to fascism. The US is floating towards fascism; the oligarchy supports it.
and
b) The militarization of the police force. My 85-year-old mother insists that the continued militarization of the police force is rewarding the cowardice of those who want to be the opressors. Her comment is that these men should be sent to the next war; that way they can't hide at home.

While I'm not sure that is the solution, I don't believe that rewarding the police or the military with what amounts to hero worship is the answer, either. It's time to hold these people accountable.

Removing the military toys would be a fine idea, too. Bloomberg, with the excuse that the occupy folks were in a residential neighbourhood, used SOUND CANNONS (you know, the ones that can cause hearing damage) in the neighbourhood to get rid of the occupy people.

Somehow, that feels counter-productive to me.

Give these guys toys, and they get all bold and forceful. We noticed that during the G-20. I will also note that the police shut down stores in the Eaton's Centre and informed bystanders to get off the main drag. Why? They knew exactly what time the 'riots' were going to happen. Yes, really.

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isuphighyeah Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:45 PM
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11. One of them had better be Officer Pike. n/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:22 PM
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22. "The officers who were placed on leave have not been identified. ."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:45 PM
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12. Update frm NYTs reporter
brianstelter Brian Stelter
UC Davis update: 2 cops suspended, I've confirmed; chancellor now wants investigation done in 30 days, instead of 90. Blog post coming.
14 minutes ago

https://twitter.com/#!/brianstelter/status/138323266661134336
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:13 PM
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17. Read this email from a Davis student on Chacellor's manipulations yesterday
@ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald
Email from UC-Davis student who participated in the protest of Chancellor Katehi as she walked to her car: is.gd/Trku0c
6 minutes ago via web

https://twitter.com/#!/ggreenwald/status/138332063723040768

Hey Glenn,

The video you posted in the update section was from a a UC Davis protest held yesterday. The chancellor decided to hold a press conference about the pepper-spray incident from Friday. To minimize the students' voice, she only gave notification to the media and no notice to the students. Only through a media leak that there was to be a press conference held, did students know about the press conference. After arriving at the building for the press conference, the media & no students (except only a handful that work for the school newspaper & tv news) were allowed in. Since being frustrated & knowing that no direct communication would be held, we decided to chant outside the building. We unexpectedly & successfully stopped the press conference early. Some students were able to get in but no questions were answered. Mind you it's still only 4:30 p.m.

Then, it took an unexpected turn. Instead of leaving from either side of the building, the chancellor decided to trap herself in building & create a fake hostage situation depicting the students as hostile, violent, & unreasonable. All the media personnel from the news stations safely exited the building w/o any incident. After this the students decided to form a walk path for her to leave, we stood there for 2 hours and 30 minutes. We didn't use any violent chants. She was also concerned about her car being vandalized which was not. I was only a few feet away from it & no damage was done to it. Among our chants were "resignation," "we paid for that car", "you can walk home," "we want accountability", "this is not a hostage situation", "no need for negotiation", etc.

After an hour or so, some interfaith leaders were allowed in to "negotiate" for her to exit in this fake "hostage situation". Then, some students were allowed in to talk to the interfaith leaders but not the chancellor. This negotiations lasted for another hour. All the while, everyone has been peacefully and been patient. Finally, the ordeal was over at 6:59 p.m.

Regarding the Friday incident, the cops claimed they were threatened the large crowd. So why did they pepper-spray that were sitting down rather than the crowd recording them? (http://www.americablog.com/2011/11/omg-cops-pepper-spray-uc-davis-students.html) .

http://ggdrafts.blogspot.com/2011/11/letter-from-uc-davis-protester.html
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:19 PM
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21. How disgusting.
:puke:

K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:32 PM
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23. Right? That b word chose not to leave for three hours
and pretends she was a hostage.

:puke:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:37 PM
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24. My gawd - she pulled a Bachmann. Disgusting. n/t
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:46 PM
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27. Great informative post, E. !
Thanks a million for your continuous faithful reporting.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 PM
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25. The headline should read: US Davis police officers rewarded with additional vacation days.
:puke:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:39 PM
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26. Oh that hurts! They are on a paid leave of absence! Such brutal punishment.

Might encourage other cops to engage in similiar actions in order to get paid vacations.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 03:33 AM
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31. K&R! n/t.
.
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