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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:40 PM Original message |
What if OWSers decide to vote Dem? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. If they did, I'd hope to see a lot more primary challenges n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. It's too late to primary anyone for 12. That process starts two years out. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. Hell, if we'd really been set on a populist presidential candidate for 2008 or 2012-- |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Why? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Democrats who side with Republicans need to be primaried n/t |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. huh? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Everybody's pissed off because 2006 & 2008 brought no hope and change for the worse. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. ^ This |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. That's what many others here have been saying also. nt |
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libinnyandia (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Part of th problem is our system is so dysfunctional. The 20 |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So was Obama's 'hope and change' out-of his-league ingnorance or a cynical lie? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Have you ever had a goal that other people thwarted you on? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. So during his time in Congress.... ? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. System is "dysfunctional" because corporations own both parties .... |
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TBMASE (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. yeah, that's because it's in the constitution |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. The last I heard we had a majority in the Senate. Did I miss something. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. The problem is .... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. So the R's had 60+ in the Senate prior to 2006? |
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libinnyandia (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. No but the Democrats are much less likely to obstruct |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Elizabeth Warren's rise by itself is a lot. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. So just go show OWS your little list of 'wins' and I'm sure it'll all go away. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. What % of OWS voted in those elections?? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. There's actually a poll of them out there. Your 'assumptions' plus $2 |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
60. What Edweird said. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think many are or are on the road to becoming |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I believe you are right. I wonder what this means for the future of our |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I think we live in post democracy America. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. No -- BOTH parties are finished -- but people go on -- they are the democrats ... !!! |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. Being co-opted and absorbed into any party would kill the OWS. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Message of OWS is that BOTH parties are finished -- RW is finsihed -- |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. What if they decide to vote for Dems |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Corporate take over of both parties is pretty much complete ... OWS knows that -- !! |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. As long as it's for the right Dems |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. Democrats are now a RW party ... attacking Social Security and Medicare just as willingly ... |
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libinnyandia (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. The GOP hates Social Security and Medicare with every fiber of |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Unfortunately, we have Obma's own words and actions which makes what he is doing quite clear -- !! |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. Link? |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why *wouldn't* they?!1 But then, why does each generation have to learn history the hard way?!1 n/t |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. Who the hell is unreccing this? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Obama is Wall Street -- OWS is anti-Wall Street .... how can you fail to understand that? |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Glenn Greenwald unrecced it. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. all the non-dems here are unreccing it.. they want the dems to fail just as much as the GOP does, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. Koch Bros. funded the DLC control over Dem Party -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. Unlikely ... OWS is about end of BOTH parties -- and moving to the LEFT ... to the LEFT ... !! |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. +1 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. I am so sick of the co-opting of GLBT rights as done in this OP |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Sorry. I completely picked it out of a hat. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Sadly, what we have to wake up to is corporate control of BOTH parties ... and that's also includes |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. That's just a Republican trope that their "sales force" uses. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Oh, really, Obama has sure made clear differences are FADING ... if any left -- !! |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
27. Most OWSers will vote for Democrats |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Agree, this is about OWS reclaiming move to LEFT ... then why would they vote for Dems/Obama??? |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Why would they vote for Obama? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Ah ... the "lesser evil" ... except that doing that over the last 30/40 yeas ... |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. But, you gotta hand it to Obama . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I think pretty much everyone knows what Obama is -- and it isn't a pretty picture -- !! |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
36. If Democrats would start acting like real Democrats, maybe. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Obama didn't pick a Wall Street Team or Koch Bros. DLC/Rahm Emmanuel |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
38. Then that's their decision. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
40. What are their numbers? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
41. OWSers have decided that the existing political system is corrupt.. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Hopefully they will be voting for a constitutional convention. nt |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yep... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
59. they probably would if they could find real Democrats |
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