Seymour Hersh: Propaganda Used Ahead of Iraq War Is Now Being Reused over Iran’s Nuke Program

Amy Goodman and Sy Hersh give us something important to think about:



And to think some wonder why so many of my DU Friends are angry that Bush and Cheney remain free?

for years.

This doesn't work anymore. The Intertubes ARE occupied!

But when Poppy brought up WMDS, particularly nookyulars, the flag waving started in earnest and the poll numbers reporting support for war became a majority.

Poppy 'n' Crew had to lie us into that war, too.

Now, thankfully, we have Truth on our side. Unfortunately, when it comes to war, it doesn't seem to make a difference -- yet.

After they killed JFK and took our people's government, the MIC took hold of the

nation. And here we are -- fascist America!



Quote is by Arundhati Roy the other day in a speech to OWS at Washington Square Park --

Arundhati Roy: "The Occupy movement has joined thousands of other resistance movements all over the world in which the poorest of people are standing up and stopping the richest corporations in their tracks. Few of us dreamed that we would see you, the people of the United States, on our side, trying to do this in the heart of empire."

Source: http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/17/headlines#0

It'll be 48 years, tomorrow. It seems like yesterday.

and though 48 years ago, it is also a very strong memory for me --

and glad to know I'm not alone in that!



:)

Works every time.

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” -- Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring

Struck a chord somewhere...

Guess who was quoted as saying the following (rom a glossy red poster I had up, back in 1972):

"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with all her might. And the republic is in danger - yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without law and order our nation cannot survive." -- Adolf Hitler

People have tried to debunk the thing, but it sounds like a certain conservative mindset that's become all-too-familiar.

"Heh. Heh. Heh."

THEN the light went on and they remembered how many times we were lied into wars.

But it took me bringing it up.

...some of which is more important, politically speaking, than others.

For instance: Iraq propaganda program legal -- Pentagon report

Thank you for not letting the clutter stay in your colleague's head, Wilms.

The 1% needs to declare a national state of emergency.

Recommended.

That's the thing that bothers me most -- The 1-percenters control the nukes.

The top ranks of the Pentagon and AEC are 1-percenters, 1-percenter wannabes, and 1-percent gofers.

Remember the B-52 loaded with nuclear tipped cruise missiles bound for who-knows-where?

Lovely people, those at the top. They say things like "Money trumps peace" and laugh about it.

This might sound curious -- but even within that 1%, we must make a break-down regarding resources & associated powers. The .5%; the .25%; etc.

There's a hard rain going to fall.

credibility and to bring in ad money-

all unis need to get out of RW radio.

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/14/transcript-president-obamas-apec-press-conference/#ixzz1ePKLFVHr


"...So, with that, I’m going to take a few questions. I’ll start with Ben Feller of AP.

Q Thank you very much, Mr. President. I’d like to ask you about Iran. Did you get any specific commitments from Russia or China on tightening sanctions? Did you move them at all? And do you fear the world is running out of options short of military intervention to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons?


PRESIDENT OBAMA: One of the striking things over the last three years since I came into office is the degree of unity that we’ve been able to forge in the international community with respect to Iran. When I came into office, the world was divided and Iran was unified around its nuclear program. We now have a situation where the world is united and Iran is isolated. And because of our diplomacy and our efforts, we have, by far, the strongest sanctions on Iran that we’ve ever seen. And China and Russia were critical to making that happen. Had they not been willing to support those efforts in the United Nations, we would not be able to see the kind of progress that we’ve made.

...So we are in a much stronger position now than we were two or three years ago with respect to Iran. Having said that, the recent IAEA report indicates what we already knew, which is, although Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon and is technically still allowing IAEA observers into their country, that they are engaging in a series of practices that are contrary to their international obligations and their IAEA obligations. And that’s what the IAEA report indicated.


...I have said repeatedly and I will say it today, we are not taking any options off the table, because it’s my firm belief that an Iran with a nuclear weapon would pose a security threat not only to the region but also to the United States. But our strong preference is to have Iran meet its international obligations, negotiate diplomatically, to allow them to have peaceful use of nuclear energy in accordance with international law, but at the same time, forswear the weaponization of nuclear power..."



Iran, Nukes and the Failure of Skepticism
Iraq all over again?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4430

11/16/11

"Much of the corporate media coverage of a new UN report on Iran strongly asserts that Iran is close to building nuclear weapons. But the International Atomic Energy Agency report does not actually arrive at that conclusion, and many critics contend that the speculations that are in the report are misguided.


...Some media coverage suggested the strongest evidence came in the form of a Soviet scientist who allegedly helped Iran with crucial detonator research. The Washington Post (11/7/11) reported that the IAEA was focused on "a former Soviet weapons scientist who allegedly tutored Iranians over several years on building high-precision detonators of the kind used to trigger a nuclear chain reaction."

What the Post did not report was that the scientist in question, Vyacheslav Danilenko, is a well-known researcher in the field of nanodiamonds--the creation of synthetic diamonds that can be used for a variety of industrial pursuits, including oil drilling, an activity that produces the majority of Iran's exports. Inter Press Service reporter Gareth Porter (11/9/11) detailed Danilenko's decades of research in this field, which requires the large-scale detonation chambers that news reports suggest are possibly part of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons research program..."

Maybe they're just preparing for the day when their oil is gone and they need energy, but I simply cannot trust vengeful theocrats. Worse still, this bunch of fantasists REALLY believe in the afterlife and have a deep, deep intolerance of other beliefs.

Which subtly tries to have its cake and eat it too.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2355987

It's amusing because it suggests two arguments favorable to Iran that don't work very well together on the surface.

1) Iran might not be making a bomb.
2) It's understandable that Iran would be making the bomb.

Actually the linked article that makes the second point mentions the first argument as well.

This isn't intended to be a dig at the OP. Just raised my eyebrows is all.

:kick:

in response to the question about Iran:

http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/11/elizabeth-warren-draws-boston-volunteer-event/HdInMkWPiSiA0C3p0RvvwK/index.html

the DN! interview is a must!