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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:09 PM
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Two Lesbians Raised A Baby And This Is What They Got
What’s the reason for opposing this again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ&feature=player_embedded
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:11 PM
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1. I just saw that posted on facebook. It's awesome.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:12 PM
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2. Wow, just wow, was that powerful and what a nice looking young man. n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 06:13 PM by teddy51
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:13 PM
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3. Wonderful! What a fine young man!
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:15 PM
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4. K&R - nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:22 PM
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5. He should run for office.
19?

Damn.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:06 AM
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33. He is very impressive and eloquent
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:26 PM
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6. He sounds wonderful, but
gays and lesbians don't have to raise perfect children, and don't have to be perfect parents. They just need to be "good enough" parents, like everyone else.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:34 PM
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8. Agree, and that makes this a huge plus! n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:08 PM
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19. +1 n/t
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:15 AM
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35. +1 but....this young man makes a fine spokesman for the cause. n/t
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:58 PM
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46. THANK YOU
Pardon me for shouting, but after seeing this video no less than 8 time son my Facebook page, and now here again, I want to scream out what you just said over every rooftop. Just like women "have to be" better than men to get ahead... um no, actually, all you have to do is be yourself, so the best you can, and stay out of other people's way.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:27 PM
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:47 PM
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9. heard from this fine young man months ago...
more info

http://www.zachwahls.com/


his business
http://www.iowacitylearns.com/
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:56 PM
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10. Did you notice the people in the back leaving?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:41 PM
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56. I saw some leaving, but what I noted more were the supporters who struck me as BURSTING!!!
in admiration and pride. They thrilled me as much as he did .... with his incredible presence and confidence and earnest . How persuasive. I am so impressed.

If the ones leaving were seated they could have been congresspeople if that was a congressional hearing - they always do that - come and go endlessly. It might have been a small room.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:18 PM
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11. he-heh our hometown boy!
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:33 PM
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12. I would be proud to call him family
His moms raised a wonderful young man!
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:43 PM
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13. The top rated comment is classic. nt.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:47 PM
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14. that guy should run for office
he would have my vote
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:52 PM
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15. Marriage = Love, commitment, communication, teamwork. Not body parts.
Good on them.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:23 AM
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36. If that was the case there would be no reason to campaign for recognition of gay marriage, I think.
Marriage is a formal contract formalising relationship, not the relationship itself. An unhappily-married couple are just as married as one with the qualities you list, and no matter how solid a relationship is it's not a marriage unless it's been formalised in some form - almost always a legal wedding ceremony, although some couples choose to get married without the involvement of the state.

Gay couples can and often do, as demonstrated, have all the things you list. What they *can't* currently have in most of the USA, but should have, is things like next-of-kin status and the right to share pensions.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:58 PM
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16. Was there ever a reason?
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:02 PM
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17. K&R!!! n/t
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:08 PM
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18. I think his moms must be bursting with pride.
If I'd had such a son (I had daughters) I know I would be...

Wow!

K&R
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:23 PM
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20. Wow!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:59 PM
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21. Awesome speech by a well-raised young man. Big k&R.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:01 PM
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22. Why is this getting big play now?
Video on You Tube says Feb 2011.





Great video! That dude rocks! :bounce:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:05 AM
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40. Who cares? I'm glad it is!
I'd never seen it before and, after reading the comments, it seems many others have not either.

It's a wonderful thing this video has resurfaced and I hope it goes everywhere it has not yet been.

Julie
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:03 PM
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23. There has never been a valid reason...
...to oppose marriage equality or gay and lesbian parents raising, adopting or taking in foster kids.

We've made a lot of progress on this front. I can see it all around me. The forces of hate are really losing this battle in a big way and it is a remarkable and joyous thing to see.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:15 PM
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24. I just shared it on FB
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:25 PM
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25. My sister and her wife adopted a baby last year
And she's the cutest baby ever! They got her as a newborn, and she just turned one in Sept. She is one lucky kid - my sister and her partner are really good parents and the love is really there.

We were both adopted (by straights!) and always, always, always knew we were wanted and loved. That obviously rubbed off on my sister. The standing joke in our family is that the lesbian is the one who made our parents grandparents. The straight, married one (me) is childless by choice.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:11 AM
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26. A fine well-spoken young man.
Kudos

k&r

:kick:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:11 AM
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27. K&R n/t
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:45 AM
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28. This is really old.
But always good to see it again. He makes an excellent case.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:48 AM
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29. K&R He's so cool
his parents have to be very proud of him.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:10 AM
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30. nice
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:54 AM
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31. Impressive young man
He'll do well and is no doubt making his moms proud!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:56 AM
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32. The epitome of eloquence.
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 08:57 AM by JNelson6563
If I were one of that boy's parents I would have wept through that entire, most heart-warming speech. If more parents were like his this world would be a much better place.

Thank you so much for posting that, it made my day! :toast:

Julie
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:10 AM
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34. Awesome speech by an awesome young man..... nt
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lilnuke Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:53 AM
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37. Cool
I love it.
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jorno67 Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:12 AM
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38. when is that young man running for office?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 10:12 AM by jorno67
This country could use more leaders like him...
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willhe Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:38 AM
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39. wow
sounds like a kennedy lol
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:37 AM
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41. WOW!
What an impressive young man. He must have 2 very proud moms!

PEACE!
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:48 AM
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42. The only folks that can argue with that still think the Earth is flat.
They are out there though...
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:50 AM
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43. I am sitting here -- stunned, tears rolling down my cheeks.
ANYONE would be proud to have this young man for their son. And you can easily tell, this young man was raised right.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:08 PM
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44. I'd rather be raised by 2 loving same sex parents, than the typical dysfunctional American family
Video moved me to tears.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:29 PM
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45. What an amazing young man
Thank you for posting this.

:thumbsup:
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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:51 PM
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47. I've seen this before
and I'm happy to be seeing it again. Truly impressive!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:31 PM
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:38 PM
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50. It looks like you searched long and hard for that example
want to compare examples of hetero couples abusing their children?


Got all day?
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:49 PM
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51. no because i'm not saying gay couples are bad parents. youre misunderstanding my post
im saying that parenting good or bad can come from heterosexual or homosexual parents. like i said good and bad parenting knows no color or sexual orientation. and btw i didnt have to search for that i still remember when it happend.p.s. im not trying to pick a fight and definitely not disparaging homosexual parents
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:01 PM
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52. That's true but heterosexuals aren't the ones being prevented from getting married to each other.
Part of the reason, gay couples are denied this right is the belief about adverse influence on the children being raised by them.

This young man; raised by two lesbians makes a compelling case to the contrary, heterosexuals face no such challenge.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:20 PM
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53. agreed
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:05 PM
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54. Shall we post the video of the Judge beating his daughter again for your review?
It is not that same-sex parents would be better parents, it is that their sexual orientation does not matter.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:22 PM
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55. no because i'm not saying gay couples are bad parents. youre misunderstanding my post
"It is not that same-sex parents would be better parents, it is that their sexual orientation does not matter."


that is exactly my point. there are good same-sex parents there are good opposite sex parents. there are bad same-sex parents and there are bad opposite-sex parents.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:53 PM
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57. It goes without saying - but why would you interject that tidbit into an OP
that does NOT assert that lesbians are better parents? I think you had an alternative motive/agenda for doing so. Heterosexual couples are able to legally marry and be parents, and homosexual couples are often not legally allowed to marry or adopt children. They are at a disadvantage because of that and now Iowa is considering amending their constitution so they legally stay at a disadvantage. How does what you posted help? It doesn't - it is your "evidence" that they shouldn't be parents.

Your post is incredibly dishonest. Just more right wing nonsense on this board.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:35 PM
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60. You were not the only one who noticed.....
Sometimes flushing them out takes more than a garden hose.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:01 PM
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58. I get yout point - it's the mental health of a person, not their orientation.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:35 PM
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49. wow
:cry:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:05 PM
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59. Wow, the kid's a future pol or CEO! Good job. nt
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