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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-12 10:52 AM
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Documents Reveal Florida Officials Misleading Public About Federal Immigration Database
Edited on Sat Jun-30-12 10:57 AM by Divine Discontent


(snip of long investigatory story)

-Special Report by Brad Friedman and
Ernest A. Canning, The BRAD BLOG

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R), his recently
appointed Secretary of State Ken
Detzner (R), and their surrogates are
attempting to deceive the media, the
public, and possibly even the federal
court system about their state's effort
to use a federal immigration database
as part of a state program that could
result in the purge up to 182,000
registered voters who, the state says,
are "potential non-citizens".

A review of public documents and
internal emails obtained by The BRAD
BLOG on the heels of a federal lawsuit
filed against the state last week by the
U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ) ---
charging that Florida's attempted purge
of voter rolls violates federal law ---
reveals that claims being repeatedly
made by the Florida officials about
both the U.S. Department of Homeland
Security (DHS) and DoJ are
disingenuous at best.

Admissions made to DHS officials on at
least two occasions, by a high-ranking
attorney at the FL Dept. of State
(FDOS), undermine the public
assertions of both Scott and Detzner,
who each claim that the federal
government is purposely withholding
access to a federal immigration
database so that it cannot be used for
scrubbing illegal voters off the state
rolls.

The false allegation that the DHS has
"refused" to provide access to the
database, so as to prevent the state
from lawfully removing illegally
registered non-citizen voters, was also
repeated in Florida's own federal
complaint, which it recently filed against
DHS.

read it all here ---> www.bradblog.com/?p=9372

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-01-12 10:27 AM
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1. Some Republican slipped and admitted publicly that voter ID requirements are
intended to help Romney win.

I don't remember his name or which state he was from though.

if you oppose voting, what in God's name makes you think you are politically an American, let alone a patriotic one?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-01-12 08:20 PM
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2. really! wow. they should use that admission
as a soundbite in commercials in heavily Latino areas.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-12 03:30 AM
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3. Can anyone register to vote without showing proof of U.S. citizenship?
Edited on Mon Jul-02-12 03:36 AM by No Elephants
That is where I get lost in the whole ID mess.

I can tell you from personal experience that getting a state photo ID is a hassle if you don't drive and don't have a passport. And, if you are born in the U.S. as I was, you don't have proof of naturalization, either.


I admit I was lax about ID, but laxity about I.D. paperwork should not disqualify a U.S. citizen from voting. Point is, though, with luck, time, money for fees and the physical ability to get myself to the DMV, I was able to get a state photo ID eventually. Not everyone can, though.

People were born at home, and maybe their parents did not know to register the birth. Not everyone has money to get copies of things like birth and marriage records. etc.

Moreover, having gone through the process, I can attest that, if you have a name, U.S. state of birth and a social security number to work with, you can also get a passport and a state photo id.

So, the whole issue is kind of silly anyway.

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-12 11:56 AM
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4. He's a rep in PA
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-12 01:14 PM
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5. Mike Turzai. Thanks. (I assume that's pronounced Turd's Eye.)
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-12 03:14 PM
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6. And don't forget about this deceased asshat, Paul Weyrich.
They've been at this shit for a long time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPsl_TuFdes
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