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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:04 PM
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Seymour Hersh: Military Branch Being Run By 'Crusaders'determined to "turn mosques into cathedrals"
Seymour Hersh: Military Branch Being Run By 'Crusaders'


The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh alleged in a speech in Qatar that key branches of the U.S. military are being led by Christian fundamentalist "crusaders" who are determined to "turn mosques into cathedrals."

Hersh was speaking at the Doha campus of Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service earlier this week. He made the comments while discussing a forthcoming book he is writing. A writer for Foreign Policy magazine attended the event and reported his remarks.

"What I'm really talking about is how eight or nine neoconservative, radicals if you will, overthrew the American government. Took it over," Hersh said.

He said that the attitude that "pervades" a large portion of the Joint Special Operations Command, which is part of the military's special forces branch and which has carried out secret missions to kill American targets, is one that supports "changing mosques into cathedrals."

the rest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/seymour-hersh-military-crusaders_n_812363.html

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:05 PM
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1. This is very eerie stuff!!! n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:54 PM
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2. A perfect formula for winning some battles and losing the war, if you can call
it that at all.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:06 PM
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3. Even it it's not THE motivation, our motivation needs to be analyzed.
The psychological, supernatural, alternative universe and alien conspiracy theories aside, anything that encourages people to THINK about what's going on, can't be a bad thing.

Unless they're already mentally weak, and the only answer is an automatic weapon.

It's a fine balance.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:11 PM
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4. Well, they clearly called it a "Crusade" but bipartisan flag waving egomaniacs were fine with it.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 08:12 PM by Catherina
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:41 PM
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5. This is an ubstantianed charge Hersh has been making for years now.
The number of Christians in Iraq has dropped by 50% since the U.S. invasion so it doesn't look like the "crusaders" are doing a good job. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12022146
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:48 PM
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6. Bad PR
They still follow the orders of civilians...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:06 PM
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7. What is truly scary is that a lot of Americans won't be surprised.
I'm not. Are you?

We have known for years that religious right was working hard to create Evangelical strongholds within the military. We have known they were trying to turn the military, in part, into a missionary outreach organization. We have known that they were especially targeting the military academies, where our military leaders are trained, and that they then following them and continued working them throughout their careers after they left the academies. How could that not give them strong control within the military?

We have known that that that "The Family" exerted a huge amount of influence in DC, and even played some kingmaker functions. That does the same thing within DC.

All of this together had to roll up into a coordinated movement to bring our government under Evangelical control, and to put True Believers in charge in key places without the public being aware.

What is most scary is that a hell of a lot of people will probably find this Admirable. A lot of Americans will probably think that this is a good idea and hope that it has succeeded, or that it will succeed.

:(
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:39 PM
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8. Guess what? The head of NIH is a zealous born again creationist
NIH is now forming a new center which will use taxpayer money to research and test drugs for Big Pharma, thus saving pharma companies billions in research costs.
See:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/health/policy/23drug.html

So when I dug around online I found this about the head of NIH, Francis Collins.


He was appointed by Obama in 2009, and the Times reported then some controversy about him, like his born again Christianity thing:

"There are two basic objections to Dr. Collins.
The first is his very public embrace of religion.
He wrote a book called “The Language of God,” and he has given many talks and interviews in which he described his conversion to Christianity as a 27-year-old medical student. Religion and genetic research have long had a fraught relationship, and some in the field complain about what they see as Dr. Collins’s evangelism. "
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/peo...

And he founded THIS:
Biolegos

"BioLogos is led by a group of Christians who are committed to promoting a perspective on the origins of life that is both theologically and scientifically sound."
http://biologos.org/about/team/dr-francis-collins /

Biolegos site says Collins resigned as President when he took NIH job.

Great, A civil war at home and a crusade in the Middle East.

We are making enemies faster than we can kill them.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 10:40 PM
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9. K/R
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